Thread regarding Citrix Systems Inc. layoffs

CItrix SDWAN and SSE markets

Any idea how they are doing? Heard they are about to be dud.

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Marketing not responding to the Gartner MQ is like sales not responding to an RFP.

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Post ID: @ahdi+1iAjSwzf

This is from the current Gartner MQ. Not responding is unheard of. This proves that there is no leadership for Citrix SD-WAN. This is a growing market and they blew it. Citrix is doomed.

"Citrix did not respond to requests for supplemental information or to review the draft contents of this document. Therefore, Gartner’s analysis is based on other credible sources, including client inquiries, past information shared by the vendor, reviews of public statements, its website and other publicly available data sources."

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Post ID: @acdi+1iAjSwzf

There's no one left to work in SDWAN; they shitcanned all of us and we went to VMware/Vyatta. I don't think there's any of the original Talari SDWAN people left at Shitrix and none else knows how to maintain it.

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Post ID: @9ypa+1iAjSwzf

VMWARE's SD-WAN is supposed to be really good. Move there?

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Post ID: @3fsq+1iAjSwzf

Yup, the infamous attach story, as if that magically solves all sales!

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Post ID: @2nlx+1iAjSwzf

The biggest reason SD-WAN failed to sell was the id--tic decision to try and sell it as attach product, a la NetScaler as just a Gateway in front of CVAD. SD-WAN gear is bought and controlled by network guys, not the Citrix server guys. Citrix spent too many years attempting to sell the gear to people who had almost zero say in networking equipment purchases.

NetScaler sales, at least in the Enterprise space, is still doing well but it's almost all attach only. Many customers have a NetScaler in the rack or on the hypervisor logically sitting right next to an F5 box. There's nothing F5 can do that NetScaler can't, but again, weak and lazy sales motions focused on the easy sale of front ending Citrix farms instead of putting in the work to get the general load balancing and security features used for the entire company.

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Post ID: @1kgf+1iAjSwzf

As always, Shitrix management was to late, to slow and again trying to use SASE to keep VDI relevant.
Again big mistake and stupid strategy.

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Post ID: @1poy+1iAjSwzf

SD-WAN and SASE space was (past tense) an upside opportunity, but the competition made quantum leaps with telcos and managed service provider buyers. The window of opportunity had closed for Citrix, and others that were late to the early-adopter market.

According to TeleGeography research, the global SD-WAN market for large multinational enterprises is worth $3 billion. This accounts for just 5% of the total enterprise networking market, so there is more growth for the established market leaders.

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Post ID: @dog+1iAjSwzf

The market seems alive and kicking, while Citrix again didn't know how to grow a business in a hot market. Is there anyone left inside to sell and build SPA or SIA?

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Post ID: @yzp+1iAjSwzf

Well, Citrix EOL’d SD-WAN earlier this year, so that’s pretty much dead. SSE are limited to SPA and SIA now. The “ZTNA” solutions. Given that many enterprise customers are already using a competing solution, nearly every opportunity is inherently a compete scenario too against proven products.

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