Thread regarding VMware layoffs

What would happen legally if employees were to Unionize before the sale?

There are some organizations that know they will be hit hard when the cuts start, and I wonder how it would be handled if those groups made the decision to unionize in the coming months.

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Post ID: @2xcf+1i1nNJGY

No, it depends from the country, after unionizing, in my country, Emea, i was a ca middle manager , layoffs confirmed but I took a bigger severance... believe me,I have been retired with the octane money..good luck guys

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Post ID: @lhk+1i1nNJGY

I am biased and against unions. I was in a Union out of college and they never helped us at all. Non-union people got bigger raises and the employees in the union got smaller ones. If we were to be successful in getting a Union launched here now (highly unlikely), Broadcom could take the approach in the USA that they don’t want to pay us severance as severance is not required by law and Hock is known to be vindictive. I really don’t see how a Union could help us at this stage; perhaps someone smarter then me can explain why/how we would benefit.

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Post ID: @jjv+1i1nNJGY

this happened already in France and in Germany e.g. with the Symantec takeover. Didn't go well. This does not prevent any layoffs. Only that Broadcom needs to explain and justify a little more (which they will easily do). Hock closed down whole entities in France and Germany immediately and everyone lost their jobs. Had to reapply for the same job at another non unionized entity. Sad but true.

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Post ID: @ygz+1i1nNJGY

As the person above me said:
It would simply change "It is likely there will be significant layoffs" to "Everyone at VMware will be fired in 6-12 months and will have the option of applying to similar positions at our new non-union subsidiary".

First, it is unlikely there would be a VMware employee union. There are too many positions that wouldn't fall under Union protection.

Second, unions don't stop layoffs. What they do is force management to justify headcount reductions, and when the reductions come the union decides who goes, usually based on seniority; they stop a company from undercutting senior workers with cheaper, less skilled, usually younger employees.

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Post ID: @lrp+1i1nNJGY

Layoff everybody, immediately.

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