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Boeing 737 MAX mid-air emergencies revealed in new investigation

https://www.travelweekly.com.au/article/boeing-737-max-mid-air-emergencies-revealed-in-new-investigation/
June 28, 2022

New claims about the Boeing 737 MAX aircraft, which was grounded internationally
in 2019 after two dҽadly cгashes, were revealed in an investigation
of the manufacturer.

The investigation was by the ABC and it revealed that after the two cгashes in
2018 and 2019, which saw 346 dҽad and caused the plane to be grounded,
Pilots Around The World Reported at least six different times when mid-air
emergencies occurred.

The incidents are part of more than 60 issues faced by pilots when operating
Boeing’s MAX dҽathtгap over the 12 months following the
Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) gave clearance for the plane to fly again.

The ABC revealed in its report, which pulled data from the US government
air safety databases, that former employees of Boeing and the FAA highlighted
cases that included engine shutdowns and pilots losing some control of the plane.

Documents revealed that one United Airlines pilot had to call mayday after
the system controlling the altitude and pitch of the plane began malfunctioning.

The ABC reported on another incident where a plane had “multiple systems failure”
and lost altitude as the nose of the aircraft tipped downward and speed increased.

A Boeing spokesperson said that the revealed incident had no connection
or trend to each other. (We Believe Boeing)

“In fact, the in-service reliability of the 737 MAX is consistent with other
commercial airplane models,” the spokeswoman told the ABC.

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This is what happens when you pay computer programmers $10 an hour in India to program your flight management system. Usually you get what you pay for. How much quality can you honestly expect when you pay people so little?

You think $10 an hour programmers are going to catch all the bugs in your software for what you’re paying them?

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Post ID: @5xbi+1hsUDVLx

Yep, lest we not forget, Boeing trained the 9/11 gang how to fly 737s into buildings.

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Post ID: @3gus+1hsUDVLx

Who needs wings. We can sell the planes to Ukraine to be used as missiles.

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Feds To Audit FAA Oversight of Boeing 737, 787 Programs
June 29, 2022, 5:07 PM
https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/air-transport/2022-06-29/feds-audit-faa-oversight-boeing-737-787-programs

The U.S. Department of Transportation’s Office of the Inspector General confirmed Wednesday that it will conduct an audit of the FAA's oversight of
Boeing’s 737 and 787 assembly lines in Renton, Washington, and
Charleston, South Carolina, respectively.
The move follows several complaints received by Congress, the FAA,
and the IG's office about ongoing production deficiencies and undue pressure
on the company’s staff.

Scheduled at the behest of chairmen and ranking members of the
House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee and its aviation subcommittee,
the audit will center on an evaluation of the FAA’s oversight of
Boeing’s 737 MAX fraud and the 787 plastic planes. Specifically, it will focus on
Boeing's lack of processes for identifying and resolving production issues and
addressing allegations of unjustified pressure on employees at the plants.

In a statement, the DOT’s IG office said it will begin the audit next month at FAA
headquarters and regional offices responsible for overseeing Boeing production,
as well as relevant Boeing locations.

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Post ID: @2ilh+1hsUDVLx

Boeing 737 and 787 have pickle fork cracks. Needs to be redesigned based on fatigue instead of wing loads this time.

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Post ID: @2jxv+1hsUDVLx

The pickle fork cracks are A BIG BEAL. I worked on the MAX, saw NGs getting fitted with MAX tips- no engineering analysis- just a new, cool thing to save fuel. Totally unresearched and 1 more thing that keeps me booking flights on Airbus. No joke.

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Post ID: @1wfw+1hsUDVLx

Keeping the wings attached to fuselage is no longer considered a concern as long as the nose dive accident occurs at high enough speed to destroy the data and voice recorder so Boeing can blame the flight crew.

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Post ID: @1sth+1hsUDVLx

Pickle cracks' found on newer 737s

https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/travel-troubles/117268589/pickle-cracks-found-on-newer-737s?rm=a

Qantas and Virgin Australia are facing fresh calls to inspect their entire
737 fleet after budget Indonesian airline Lion Air found "pickle fork" cracks
on 737 aircraft with fewer flights than the threshold for mandatory checks.

Qantas grounded three of its 737 domestic workhorses for repair last week
after finding the cracks, which Boeing and airline regulators say do not pose
an immediate safety risk.

The faults are being found on the popular 737 NG aircraft type worldwide,
and appear on the "pickle fork", which reinforces the wings' connection to
the plane's body. Virgin Australia has not found any cracks on its aircraft.

The US Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) ordered all 737 NGs worldwide
that had operated more than 30,000 flights to be inspected within seven days,
and for planes with more than 22,600 flights to be inspected within their
next 1000 flights.

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Post ID: @1eyy+1hsUDVLx

As Boeing history has shown, the cover-ups will continue until the next accident shines a bright spotlight on the design and/or manufacturing defects. I predict and fully expect this will be the case for the 787 too given what we already know.

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Post ID: @1xey+1hsUDVLx

Yep, this is why the Airbus design philosophy which simplifies the flight deck, provides exceptional alerting to flight crew and has built in protections to prevent inexperienced flight crew doing things they shouldn't has been so successful. COMAC has adopted the Airbus philosophy as well.

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Post ID: @1ork+1hsUDVLx

The 737 was designed back when commercial flight crews largely came from the military and were highly trained pilots with many hours of flight experience. The 737 flight crew alert system doesn’t meet modern safety standards which were updated many years ago to address that largely far less trained and less experienced flight crew operate commercial airplanes these days. Given this reality, many aviation experts are amazed that there haven't been far more 737 accidents. So expect more 737Max accidents before this airplane is finally permanently grounded and retired.

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