Thread regarding VMware layoffs

Take it From a Former EMC Guy…

I know I will get downvoted or whatever, but VMware’s fate was set in 2004 when EMC bought 85% of the stock…as per their usual game plan, they stopped innovating and began acquiring companies to fool the industry into thinking they were dynamic. This didn’t work for EMC, and it shows it also didn’t work for VMWare, as we now see. EMC being bought by Dell was a mercy ki----g; Broadcom buying VMW is the same thing.

You can thank Joe Tucci for getting Diane Greene out of the way in 2005 and planting his acolytes in place to squeeze all the money they could out of the company and boost EMC’s bottom line to cover for their slow demise - Maritz and Gelsinger were simply plants to make sure things looked legit, but nothing really happening behind the scenes that cost real money to innovate. Why do you think it took so long to get vCenter to leverage HTML5? There was no revenue behind it, so why dedicate a lot of resources. Why Pivotal or Tanzu? Because Gelsinger saw the writing on the wall in how VMs were going to be a fading commodity in the light of containers, etc. And now he is at Intel, trying to right that ship as Apple walks away from them and ARM is suddenly get its day.

I truly am sorry for VMW folks - the hypervisor was a ground breaker. In 1999….that was the last time any risk was taken to innovate at the company.

Get out there and find another place - there’s still plenty of space for places with traditional, non-Cloud native workloads that still need a full VM. It ain’t dead yet!

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The comment about Pat not being disciplined with a high R&D budget should be clarified - we used to brag about how much we put into that at EMC as well, but most of it was attempting to integrate acquired stuff and increased support engineering…it wasn’t for innovation. What he did was part of the EMC 101 playbook that Joe was driving from the mothership.

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Post ID: @1wim+1hVFq9qS

Pat was not a disciplined CEO, he spent too much on science projects. 20% of VMware revenue spend on R&D, is the highest of anyone. He was also more into himself and his Glassdoor ratings, than what was best for VMware. He always wanted to be the CEO of Intel, over VMware. The moment he got the Intel Job, he ditched VMware and ran there. He tried to stay on the VMware Board, but when he poached Greg Lavander to Intel, likely the Board asked him to leave. Lets see how he does at Intel, but even there he seems more interested in kissing up to Biden for government money, than turning around Intel.

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Post ID: @1ssf+1hVFq9qS

I certainly agree that the pedal tone of being 85% owned from the start was not a way to run a public company.

The Pivotal acquisition was likely good to avoid bigger losses down the road - the main owners were again just a handful and just a year after heptio was acquired. I doubt VMware’s position in the k8s space would be any different if Pivotal wasn’t acquired, maybe they just would have failed faster. The heptio nerds were not product people either, they cached in on their invention, so good for them, but they were not cut out to be leaders of enterprise products.

The tolerance for bad managerial practices across the board, right down the the mid level managers, seems to be the root cause of headcount bloat and inability to innovate despite any specific acquisition imho.

A review by any competent Managment firm such as Accenture, Deloitte, etc would have revealed many flaws and vmware could have righted itself, but that wasn’t in executive management’s DNA it seems to me.

All moot, but makes for an interesting autopsy , I mean, business case study.

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Post ID: @scg+1hVFq9qS

I'm getting the feeling that Pat might not've been a very good CEO?

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Post ID: @rns+1hVFq9qS

No decision can come close to being as catastrophic as acquiring Pivotal. $3B for a dead company that was 3 quarters from being bankrupt. And that completely derailed all the work that had been done after the Heptio acquisition to create a viable Kubernetes product. 30 months after that disasterous Pivotal acquisition the Tanzu products are still a laughing stock. The Kubernetes founders have taken their money and left the sinking ship.

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Post ID: @azj+1hVFq9qS

The worst decision by Pat was VCloudAir. Why did he waste many years doing that? We should have been all over AWS, or doing containers, instead of wasting money trying to be a public cloud. All that has led to where we are today - a legacy, fallen, once-great company.

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