Thread regarding Lowe's Cos. layoffs

If You Settle For A 3% Raise Next Year, Then You’re A Chump.

Discussions are currently going on inside corporate boardrooms about raises for next year. How do I know? I have family members who are in the middle of them. I have two members of my immediate family who work in upper management at two separate retailers. They’ve each confirmed to me that these discussions, some formal, some not, have been going on in the last few months about how much of a raise they should be giving considering the current inflation.

According to each of them, these discussions concern how many people they’re going to lose if they give out the normal 2%-3% raises that are common each year. They know that they should be giving out more but they’re trying to figure out how to spin to their employees so that they accept getting a lowball raise.

I’ve asked each of them repeatedly which way their companies are going to go, but as of now, they’re undecided. They’re worried about losing people especially with so many job openings right now and with so many people quitting their jobs each month. It’s put a strain on some of the retailers and they’re worried about making it worse. If some retailers give out 5 to 6 percent raises while others argue that they can’t, then they are worried that they’ll lose a lot of people.

The upshot of all this is that the retailers know they should be giving more and they actually can if they want to, but unless people start demanding it, then they’re going to get the usual cheap-o raises. That means you’re going to be actually earning less considering the crazy inflation happening this year.

People should be discussing this, especially in the stores. The frontline workers have the most to lose. Don’t let the companies BS you. They CAN do this and it will go a lot farther than temporary bonuses. Don’t be a chump, earn what you’re worth.

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Post ID: @OP+1hBhjJIb

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Sorry everyone, that's a typo
It should read Champ
Have a Blowes Safe Day

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Post ID: @czzf+1hBhjJIb

@7h1n+….I see you are still “dedicated” to your ignorance, and working for these fools. I actually feel sorry for you.

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Post ID: @ahcd+1hBhjJIb

'19 years also and I finally told Lowe’s to go F themselves! So much better off now!'

Wow you still come here here to post! That's some dedication!

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Post ID: @7hln+1hBhjJIb

19 years also and I finally told Lowe’s to go F themselves! So much better off now!

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Post ID: @4qno+1hBhjJIb

If you don't feel you are paid fairly find a new job. Lowes sucks, always has always will. Worked there for 19 years and one day had enough and put in my notice. If you have not figured it out by now Lowes doesn't care about its workers and they are looking to pay young kids $14 vs paying a good wage. If you want to be miserable and under paid Lowes is the place for you, if you have any smarts at all Lowes is trash and not a company to work for

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Post ID: @4ziv+1hBhjJIb

To the people who keep asking “How much should a new hire/retail worker/etc. make per hour?” - there is no one answer - it varies throughout the country and also depends on your experience in the job you are applying for.

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Post ID: @3trl+1hBhjJIb

I’m the original author of this post and I want to make a couple of comments.

To the individual who is curious as to what the average hourly rate of a CSA should be….

This question is off topic for one thing. Im not arguing for any base pay like $30/hour. My argument was for a decent wage increase that keeps pace with the cost of living and inflation. It’s not true that our employer can’t give these raises. They increase the prices to match costs, so it’s BS that they can’t do this. They don’t WANT to do it.

As far as base pay goes, that depends on the experience of the individual, local economy, and position they hold. That’s always been the case. If base pay has gone way up lately, I consider that an over correction from the years when minimum wages were kept artificially low. If companies and the government had done the right thing and increased the minimum wage incrementally, they wouldn’t have been forced to raise their wages so much. I consider that a consequence of them being cheap for so long. They’d most likely be looking at a cheaper minimum wage if they’d done that. But if you refuse to do the decent thing by your employees, you shouldn’t be surprised when the system over corrects and you wind up paying more.

Lastly, I notice that it’s always the people who don’t have to do these service jobs who complain when we demand decent raises or wages. It’s invariably people who either have money, management or people from other sectors who scoff when we ask for what we’re worth. I invite those people to do our jobs for a few months to experience what we go through. You might just discover something you didn’t know.

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Post ID: @2uwt+1hBhjJIb

Then the question remains. What should be the hourly rate for that CSA in Lowes? Or Home Depot for that matter? If the $30 range is not correct then what?

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Post ID: @2bnn+1hBhjJIb

No more raises ,ever .topped out at $18 per hour as a sales specialist in Texas .First timer ever- performance or cost annual .SSM stated sell 200% more and get the incentive .

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Post ID: @2fqk+1hBhjJIb

Like our good buddy Klaus Schwab says "you will have nothing and be happy"
Let's go Melvin!

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Post ID: @1uui+1hBhjJIb

to Mr Curious..... if a kid at your local coffee outlet is getting $15+ to pour coffee in a cup and put a doughnut in a bag and hand it through the drive thru then an associate in a specialty department selling million(s) would/ should be worth what??. That number would need to be $30+/hr. How is this sustainable? But we can all agree that specialty retail is likely the among the most underpaid employees in this society.

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Post ID: @1uyd+1hBhjJIb

My uncle works at Nintendo and they are getting 5 percent raises

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Post ID: @1mmo+1hBhjJIb

Unionize...it's the only way.

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Post ID: @1pjb+1hBhjJIb

Overheard poolside over appletinis....

Melvin: "its toilet paper or raises..simple as that..I got bills to pay too..now enough shop talk..(ahem) uh yeah bro? I need a refill here!"

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Post ID: @1khd+1hBhjJIb

Need a 20-30% raise. People have rents going up 50% in some places. Electric is going up, water up, groceries way up, gas through the roof. They raise the prices in the store day after day and they can't give us a cost of living increase?

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Post ID: @ggk+1hBhjJIb

Curious.. what should a person in a retail store earn per hour? The associate who puts stock away, rings and assists customers, clean up an area or department?

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Post ID: @yhd+1hBhjJIb

My specific solutions this:

  1. Discuss it in the stores and offices. Everyone needs to make it known that this is an issue. The easiest way that the companies get away with things is when they aren’t generally known. Right now the biggest obstacle for many is the fact that most employees have no idea about any of this. They just assume that they have to accept what they’re given.
  1. Make it known that we can and will do something about it. The associates have more power than they realize. We can call out, slow down and make the companies business harder and less profitable. We don’t need a union to make the corporates life a living he-l.
  1. We have an opinion survey coming up. Use it. Make it VERY apparent that we aren’t happy and that we deserve a decent pay increase. No senior manager would ever accept a measly 3% raise. You think Marv gets 3% a year? Voice your opinion in the survey.
  1. Make it known outside the company. People in the media know about this and we need to spur them to talk about it more. The more it’s known in the general public, the more pressure they’ll feel to do the right thing.
  1. Lastly, be prepared to quit. All of this is toothless unless we’re actually prepared to put our money where our mouths are. There are other retailers. We can jump ship and right now there’s a lot of retailers who need help. Doing it en mass would help but just be willing to walk away.

If we never stand up for ourselves, they’ll take advantage of us forever. They like “accountability”. Maybe we should show them what it looks like when they take advantage of us.

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Post ID: @egj+1hBhjJIb

So what is your specific solution?

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Post ID: @dro+1hBhjJIb

Carmax giving employees $50 a month gas stipend to help cover increased costs of getting to work.

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Post ID: @dlj+1hBhjJIb

One word to fix it: Unionize

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