My buddy works for Starbucks, makes more than me as a real estate guy, and gets to work from home full time. Honestly, at his $200k a year, makes me think I should leave this dinosaur industry and I won’t have to deal with being laid off in 10 years when fossil fuels are outlawed. VH, how do you plan on recruiting if you are living in the past?
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Yo, get me a cakepop Starbucks boy!
OP is another WFH whiner. He's also a d-mb@ss for thinking that fossil fuels are going to be outlawed in 10 years. Based on his attitude, I encourage him to join his buddy at Starbucks. I'll have a Venti Caramel Ribbon Crunch Frappuccino, and make it snappy!
I think it’s a dozen or so ex and current workers trying to figure out why their bosses didn’t or don’t recognize their genius. It’s depressing (but a little bit funny) to hear them whine.
P.S. Please keep posting. I’m bored and this is entertaining. Oh, and I’m not a boomer, your fav boogie man.
It’s a lot of upset ex workers as far as I can tell.
@5hyb+1f1fKSde believes the ‘majority of our workers’ follow this site. That’s cute.
Lol = insecurity laugh.
The guy manipulating votes is just compensating for something that's missing in his life.
Lol. Or just that a majority of our workers disagree with you bro.
I think that @4eun+1f1fKSde doesn’t understand that everyone knows he is ‘liking’ his own comments. Suggestion - next time keep the numbers down and you might be more believable.
WFH could indeed be here for a long while. On the other hand, companies may end it altogether or implement some type of hybrid. Or it could be different for different jobs and/or different job levels. Anyone who thinks they knows is just fooling themselves. Any "benefit" offered by a company is driven by competition. When the competition changes, so do the benefits. It's way too early to tell with WFH. When/if the country turns the corner on the pandemic, things will be clearer. Any arguments now are like arguing who will when the Super Bowl in 2030.
@3tvf, actually, when there are fewer jobs and less competition, the companies have the power. Employees have the power where there are many job vacancies and demand for their skills is high. Right now, this oil market, there is no competition. Maybe you can go to Google and Facebook like the guy who claims to have a geologist friend who managed to change jobs and do something that his outside of his area of expertise. Just maybe.
To the poster immediately below, you probably have your children help you connect to the wifi since you don’t understand technology. Does Microsoft teams intimidate you? Or are you just a middle level manager who is upset since you can’t micromanage from home? The world is changing without you. If you don’t like it retire. The BWP is proof that oxy felt it HAD to compromise on wfh vs in office “collaboration”
You must be very inexperienced if you really think work from home is going on past the end of the covid pandemic. Managers and executives won’t put up with WFH and all companies will essentially behave the same way. So there will be no better place to go if you are driven by work from home. Personally I would rather be in the office interfacing with the decision makers getting to know them than sitting at home with a bunch of other people on the screen.
Not to mention those technical professionals like engineers and geologists can easily hop to other oil companies like Devon and Hilcorp that treat their employees right during the good times (remember the $100k bonus to each employee mentioned below). There are so many jobs in oil and gas available right now. Workers have more negotiating power than ever before in the history of this industry. It’s a combo of high oil prices and less competition from so many being forced out of the industry during the last downturn. Plus with less going into this industry out of college because of the climate change narrative.
What an ignorant comment said immediately below. My buddy just got a job at Tesla as a data scientist when his background is geology. Most companies just want smart people that they can train. Drilling engineers are still engineers by background, companies like Facebook would more than take them. And for disciplines like accounting, finance, land, supply chain, those skills are even more transferable to other industries.
Google, Amazon, and Facebook are all quality employers who hire loads of drilling engineers, geologists, petrophysicists, reservoir engineers, field operators, etc. Sure, leave your high paying job in the oil industry and go there. Let us know how that works out for you.
Maybe you don't care, but the fact is remote is the future of work. Companies that don't adapt to this policy (similar to the companies that deny climate change is real) are the companies that won't survive the new world order. Enough high paying companies are now fully remote (Amazon, HP, Dell, Google, Facebook). For the companies that don't adapt, their employees will just go to the companies that do. There will be a brain drain of all the good talent (since my generation overall favors the flexibility of remote work).
Who cares if we gave to go in 3 days a week. When someone can’t handle that they need to go. I am just hoping we can drop the masking which is useless. In Europe they are dropping the masking and getting on with life. We need to do the same.
Only one more month of WFH. Is everyone looking forward to repeating the cycle again?
@2zsg+1f1fKSde Actually we had applicants from Colorado School of Mines, Texas AM, University of Texas, University of Oklahoma, LSU, Rice. UH, etc. All highly respected schools. There were a lot of great potential employees, and the previous post is spot on. You stay in the oil business for long and you will see many highly educated and great employees caught up in the layoff game, and also acquisitions end up cutting out many workers.
You are really showing your ignorance. Many brilliant, competent, hard working, and highly skilled people get caught up in layoffs because of politics not because they couldn’t do the job. You obviously have not lived through the 1980s when job cuts of 30 and 40% were common. Mostly it is the people who know how to play the game at work who are the survivors. They also happen to be competent but they know how to promote themselves in front of their bosses. Promoting oneself is a skill some are born with and others learn it through great pain. So please don’t think you are so special because you were not messed with by the people in power who rarely know who they even have working for them.
@1rwp - then why do we have so many poor performing, inexperienced and incompetent people who couldn’t make it at other companies? What department are you in that gets so many brilliant applicants but is stuck with people like you? Bathroom maintenance? Facilities Engineers here all got let go somewhere else or we hired from places like Kansas University!! Hardly having the pick of the crop, are we??!
Honestly, this high in prices is ephemeral. Realize that oil and gas is just not a highly dependable place to be. Make bank when you can, but definitely upskill (on your own dime because Oxy is such a pain in this) and move on to better opportunities. The energy space is on unstable ground and the shifting sands will introduce far more players, make the commodity even less stable. good luck.
It is such a shame for all parties that this merger ever happened. This includes Anadarko employees, Oxy employees, and Oxy stockholders. What group has benefited from it?
Our team had one opening on the technical side and got over 400 resumes. Many had the skills we could use, and we interviewed around 20. One thing most had in common is they had been caught up in layoffs, etc. Some of my Anadarko friends who did not retire are still looking for work in the oil and gas field. They got a great severance but now are paying high insurance cost, and the severance does not last forever. Last I looked my Oxy checks have been pretty steady, so just leave it you don’t like it here.
Thousands lining up to work at Oxy? Yeah, thats why we take on rejects from Chevron, XOM etc. We have facilities engineers we treat like rocket scientists and they have civil engineering degrees with road construction backgrounds! Where are these thousands you talk about, Walmart, Mc Ds? What are you talking about?
I am vaccinated and boosted and I still got omnicron.
Burning fossil fuels helps our core business which is oil and gas. The other climate related work is secondary.
Are you vaccinated and boosted?
Just curious. And yes, I am aware that even fully vaccinated and boosted people are getting covid.
He works for Starbucks corporate dude. Obviously he is not a barista at the store making $15 an hour. Companies like Starbucks, amazon, HP, Google, Facebook are all operating in the future and allow employees to work from anywhere because of this invention called the internet. Besides, if companies like oxy really want to put their money where their mouth is when it comes to climate change (all anyone seems to talk about these days) why would they require 10,000 employees to congest the roads to and from work while burning fossil fuels in the process. Especially when most can easily do their job from a laptop or home office (this means white collar office employees and obviously excludes the field workers).
Requiring employees to work in the office is a huge health risk. I got covid last week and I have never felt sicker.
@1kp, I’m 35, not even close to being a boomer. I just don’t mind working and interacting in person with my colleagues. I’ll do me, and you do you.
How does he work from home if he works at Starbucks?
Have you spoiled work from homers ever thought about the people conducting laboratory or field studies where they are required to be onsite. Most doing this work are brilliant and much much smarter than you mo--ns working from home but they are not compensated differentially for having to go into the office every day.
Comment below spoken like a true boomer who doesn’t like that the world is changing without them. Lol
Good plan, so go do it. I will ride out the oil industry at Oxy, but seems like you have a plan, so just go do it. There are hundreds if not thousands that will apply for your job when you are gone and will be more than willing to work in the office 3 days a week for good pay, health benefits plus many other benefits as well. Just go!!
The work done in oil and gas companies is real work and that is the difference. Quite frankly most people born after laptops and cell phones were invented don’t understand what real work is.
Why are oil and gas companies so against this trend? Doesn’t make sense to me as it seems like it’s the future of work.
Why are people so hung up on WFH? People who weight WFH above all other job criteria are just lazy. Who needs these lazy good for nothing people working for Oxy anyway. That includes the OP.