I know of people who were forced to leave because they didn’t get the exemption, so I wonder if they didn't qualify for the exemption than who did.. Besides, the vaccine is not the only reason people are leaving. A lot of my colleagues have left lately, for reasons other than vaccinations.
Worst of all, they are the best people, the ones who were the backbone of the team, the best and the most talented.
Optum will have a difficult time replacing these people. Eventually they will have to hire 2 or three people to compensate for the departure of one such quality employee.
I don't understand this strategy but it seems to me that it is not sustainable? Can this work out? I doubt it.
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Maybe have an employee fun zone. That way the employees can get out stress by fuze ball, ping pong, arcades, and play games to help build morale and team building for HR ladies / girls
"Human capital"
Worked in medical research, and was working in a clinic where I was treated quite horribly by a female boss who was super intense into the job, loved it, it was her life and it was her soul.
In 2020, I came down with multiple diseases and had to be hospitalized for a few weeks. Had to of course fight with American insurance corporations for what little they could reimburse after spending tens of thousands of dollars to pay for profit insurance corporations.
I came back to work almost immediately and about 3 days in had a health problem and back to the hospital I went. I was there about 3 weeks total and because of the covid flu, I went negative in PTO to about -73 hours.
Well I was back, working my rearend off, enrolling a ton of patients in studies for thei r for profit "research"... But I was being treated like total garbage. My boss constantly said things like "you're lucky we didn't fire you" and "I vouched for your job upstairs." "You're lucky you have a job." "Cry me the rivers"
So, my year end review comes and my boss says that she would love to give me a raise, but will have to see a much better performance and we can discuss it in 4 months (mind you I had not received a raise in the 3 years I worked there). She also told me I am not allowed to see my colleagues outside of work anymore. - 3 of them are really good friends to this day. She also always tried to get me to get me to say mistakes my colleagues were making to get them in trouble. When I refused, she would become irate. I had earned back all my PTO and had 20 hours. She wouldn’t let me take a day off to fly to Chicago for a wedding because I “need to bank more pto”.
So, I found a job making double and said that I would stay 2 weeks to help transition all my patients over. My boss says, why even bother? She walks me back to my office, calls the $14 /hr security guard, and watches me pack up all of my belongings and escorts me out of the building. She also told me not to say anything to anyone on my way out and not to text my co-workers.
I've never been fired, but that's what it felt like. Humiliating That's how they treat workers in the US.
The same narcissistic lackeys that were in senior management when I was laid off two years ago are still in place. Most have been promoted. The offshore takeover of middle management in IT is nearly complete. The individuals with the least amount of human compassion have succeeded and those with some degree of humanity and caring have been let go. Often those let go were those with the most skills. Those who remained were the most sycophantic, having the best skills at sucking up and offering adulation to their sociopathic leaders. In spite of all this, the corporation has succeeded financially beyond anything we could have imagined even 10 years ago. Nothing is going to change. The entrenched set of long time leaders and their court have given their lives to the corporation because the corporation enables them to acquire material wealth that gives them the ability to feel good about themselves and to feel superior to the pathetic lemmings that continue to roam the virtual halls for a paycheck. UHG/Optum is not going anywhere. Continue to smile, clap and lie and your paycheck will be safe until it isn't.
Offshoring is the American way! Hire foreigners, stack em high and cheap. Go profiteering.
The comment that there are plenty of offshore to replace anti-Vaxers is the prime perfect example of the discrimination that exists at Optum and UHC. The Mumbai management objective is to replace majority of staffing with India offshore.
There's no loyality. It's only a paycheck. clock in , clock out. And be quiet, smile , clap, nod to those boomer bosses and then be on the look up for other jobs.
You just spent 92K plus interest to get a 65K job as an employee at whim. Who's the su---r? Keep hamster wheeling. Rigged USA
It’s very easy to get a « better job ». And yes nobody owes you anything-it’s every man -woman for themselves fighting for crumbs and scraps. What a cesspool
Lol uhh pay your loan. Get a better job if needed. Nobody owes you anything.
YUP! MOPtum.
Over 65 and can’t retire because I have $92K PLUS interest in student loans in health care. On February, the loans come back each month for repayment.
How can I get out of this debt without working at some junky job at that place? They promised us this, that, if you do all the right things, go to school, student loans are good debt, your degree means something, graduate, get a safe secure job with benefits. WHAT HAPPENED?! They laid off so many people, they were loyal. They were good people. Honest, caring, and tossed aside like an old newspaper. They believed that the corporation was family and went to all the fun events, etc....they canned. What do we do!!
does this really surprise anyone? This is the same company (MOPtum) that regularly enforces mandatory overtime
We comparing westernized "nations" apples to apples. Health care tied into a job-whack. No education without loans-whack, no employment rights-whack. No real pension/retirement without personal contributions-whack, no mandated vacation time-whack. Unionize. Don't be a corporate lackey for American capitalism.
- " With US employees, anything goes because they have no rights and heavily
- "propagandized and buy into the brainwashing
You've obviously never heard of working conditions in most of Asia, Africa, and half of South America...
Used to work for a capitalistic "health" multinational in the short time on a team with a typical USian manager. The manager threatened to sack people at whim if they hadn't done a certain task by Friday and of course the 4:30PM friday meetings before long weekends to ensure the US workers were dutiful drones & lackies. We mentioned this to HR who had to explain to her that this would be totally illegal in the UK and the EU, and that if he did it, the UK and EU union would have a field day and it would cause huge reputational damage to the company as they would take it court. She was stopped from managing UK employees after that and heavily reprimanded. With US employees, anything goes because they have no rights and heavily propagandized and buy into the brainwashing
·This is why so many US companies are anti-union. They want to treat employees like slaves and dirt and never be held accountable with real employee protections like every other Western country to maximize shareholder profits. "Health" Company was of course American-- really nasty scumbags about micromanaging, constant reports abt metrics, and measily if any pay raises, the main reason the turnover was so high in that bad joke with so many clueless blokes.
maybe join or start a union, get off wastebook and other "social" nonsense, delete it. anti exploitation and antiwork. Can't eat prestige.
- "Land of the endless taxes/fees, home of the wage slave. Keep "voting" against your
- best interests. Hamstering corporatists "
Then leave, a$$ho-e.
Land of the endless taxes/fees, home of the wage slave. Keep "voting" against your best interests. Hamstering corporatists
The CMS vaccine mandate lawsuit granted nationwide injunction this past week. They can't in force the CMS mandate or the OSHA mandate.
Your employer is NOT your family or your friends. We're just employees. Expendable at ANY time. It was and is NOT your company. We're just employees with no employment rights.
The talent drain is real but unrelated to the vaccine mandate.
Who cares why worry how optum is going to handle it. Take care of your self.
No one in their right mind would work there unless they have no other options. Beer flu or not. The rest is just noise and corporate fl-------e.
There’s plenty of offshore to replace you antivaxxer mo--ns. Good riddance
the vaccine mandate is a new wrinkle in the annual Optum purge event