I'm sure that some of the people who're complaining about their managers have legitimate reasons for that, but a good part is simply lazy and trying to find an excuse for themselves. I've been present when people were simply asked to do something that was their job, no yelling or threatening, just to have them turn around and start talking about how their boss is a horrible manager who is a bully. That is not helping anybody's cause but their own. Make them look like a victim so they don't have to do their jobs. I know bad managers exist at TD, but so do bad employees.
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I know a lot of colleagues from all over who dedicated a boat load of their lives to TD (and were happy to do it), but with the current climate they're just burned out and stopped asking "how high?" when their sh---y boss asks them to jump at this point.
this post nails it. to all long running TD Dinos out there. take some responsibility for the stage this company is in while u look in the morning in the mirror. chop the dead wood SM
GTFO
OP says:
"I'm sure that some of the people who're complaining about their managers have legitimate reasons for that, but a good part is simply lazy and trying to find an excuse for themselves. I've been present when people were simply asked to do something that was their job, no yelling or threatening, just to have them turn around and start talking about how their boss is a horrible manager who is a bully. That is not helping anybody's cause but their own. Make them look like a victim so they don't have to do their jobs. I know bad managers exist at TD, but so do bad employees."
Quick questions--
- How is it that Teradata is strangely-unique, in that it has been cursed with so many lazy workers and "bad employees"?
- Who does the hiring at Teradata?
- Are the employees REALLY complaining because they were asked to "do their job"? Or were they given unreasonable time-frames/due dates and maybe made to execute "their job" under less-than-pristine conditions?
Glad to know the OP thinks as long as the employees are not being "yelled at or threatened" means everything should be okay!!
"perilous to generalize from a single, or a handful, of experiences."
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"The big trouble is at the top ..."
Have any of the regular contributors here talked to SM or HA, to avoid this perilous generalization?
"I've been present when people were simply asked to do something that was their job, no yelling or threatening, just to have them turn around and start talking about how their boss is a horrible manager who is a bully."
How many times has this happened versus the number of times that someone was told to do something and they did it?
Also, that they were told to do something and, in turn, dissed their manager does no preclude the possibility that the manager was bad.
It is perilous to generalize from a single, or a handful, of experiences.
Unless you've got the same findings from a representative sample, you're just citing anecdotal examples. Now - the CEO has a sample set size of 1 and the ELT under 10 whereas the rank and file are in the thousands. So when you assert you met some lazy employees, yeah, fine, most probably true, but if you think focusing on the insignificant side of the story brings any value - I don't. The big trouble is at the top ...
The point is that nobody takes employees who truly do have abusive managers seriously because of people like this. They are making it harder for all of us to call out those who really need to be called out and removed.
Point of this post?