And so it begins. Will be interesting to see how many employees comply with the December 8 deadline, and how many will simply leave. I'm not anti-tax, but am anti-mandate, and would like to see enough take a stand that it rattles Palo Alto to the core. Did it ever occur to the execs to simply drop the government contracts instead and keep a large number of employees happy? It is not like we really need that business to survive, we are plenty profitable without the Feds.
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At a time when VMware is reinventing itself with emerging products and is being spun off from Dell there has been a growing list of executive departures. Nothing speaks louder to a lack of confidence in the future of the company like leaving for a competitor. They deleted my post with the names, but there are the titles of those that left this year. The same thing is happening at the individual level. Several people who I work with left in the last few weeks. They were the smart ones too. The ones that did the work.
CEO
COO
SVP/GM cloud management
VP of software-defined data-center
President and general manager
Global chief customer officer
Global chief operating officer
Senior director of global services strategy
VP of operations and customer intelligence
VP of customer advocacy
EVP/GM telco and edge cloud
After all, more people die from the flu every year than Covid.
More disinformation. In the US, 30,000 to 50,000 die from the flu every year.
Over 684K people (just in the US) have died from Covid since the start of the pandemic.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/KXgA5wYR43ZF/
https://thetruedefender.com/dr-vladimir-zelenko-endangered-his-life-by-exposing-this-must-watch/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5z4KRvWtEs
The support for totalitarian rule is running deep from the pro-vaxers in this thread.
Military grade propaganda.
You miss the more sophisticated point which is that it is my body and my choice what to do with it. You ask “What is the objection?” Quite frankly, the objection is none of your business. Not VMW, not the government, not anybody else's. Anybody should be able to say they do not want to put a chemical in their body they do not want to. I really do not understand what is so difficult to understand about that concept. VMW can run their business how they choose. If they want to fire and discriminate against people who elect not to get vaccinated apparently they are well within their rights to do so. But at least be honest with yourself about it. This decision is 100% about the money and shareholder value. If you think it is about employee health, then you are sadly naive. If it were, ask yourself why VMWare is not mandating all employees get the flu shot. After all, more people die from the flu every year than Covid. I get it but some of us have empathy for those employees who are getting kicked to the curb through no fault of their own. Apparently you and many others on this thread do not. In fact, some seem to be taking pleasure in it. Sometimes it is not ok to be a sheep. Think about it.
BTW, Intel does not have a mandate. Sure, Pat is glad to be there.
Oh it’s the lyrics from the song ‘Guaranteed’ by Eddie Vedder. You’ll find it on Google.
On bended knee is no way to be free
Content free blathering gibberish that does nothing to further any dialog. It looks to be seeking to raise antivax emotions.
More valueless noise bloviated into the void from disinformation artists.
On bended knee is no way to be free
Lifting up an empty cup I ask silently
That all my destinations will accept the one that's me
So I can breathe
Circles they grow and they swallow people whole
Half their lives they say goodnight to wives they'll never know
Got a mind full of questions and a teacher in my soul
So it goes...
Don't come closer or I'll have to go
Holding me like gravity are places that pull
If ever there was someone to keep me at home
It would be you...
Everyone I come across in cages they bought
They think of me and my wandering
But I'm never what they thought
Got my indignation but I'm pure in all my thoughts
I'm alive...
Wind in my hair, I feel part of everywhere
Underneath my being is a road that disappeared
Late at night I hear the trees
They're singing with the dead
Overhead...
Leave it to me as I find a way to be
Consider me a satelite for ever orbiting
I knew all the rules but the rules do not know me
Guaranteed..
At a minimum, they should certainly remove the “I” from the supposed
EPIC values. There is no integrity in discriminating against and
Military grade propoganda works.
Can we all admit there is a steady stream of lies and disinformation
being fed to people by certain types of people and media outfits?
Next, can we accept that humans are often afriad of things they don't
understand?
It's normal human behavior.
But now step back, and think about this logically.
Did you go to grade school in the US? You were required to take
vaccines.
Did you ever serve in the military? You were required to take
vaccines, and possibly other dr-gs if you were deployed to certain
places.
Did you come to the US from less developed countries? You were
required to have a full health exam, and in many cases have additional
vaccines administered.
In society, there some sometimes rules one has to follow. That's a
fact of life.
firing a group of people because they do not want to inject certain
dr-gs in their body.
What is the objection? What makes this vaccine wrong? Are there
other dr-gs that are ok?
COVID is a made made bio we---n being used by governments for nefarious means.
Citation needed.
The brainwashed can take the booster shots all day long; and promote the
lying and money making propaganda of the vaccines when a cures have
been available all along.
Pray tell, what is the cure that has been available all along?
The vaccines are not for your health; they are for mass population control.
Can you provide more details how this concept works?
According to your message, the vaccine is a population control method. How can this possibly be true? After all, the virus itself ki--s far more people than any of the available vaccines. Can you provide more details about this idea?
Then quit, and find another decent job that hires people that don't mandate that. Good luck with that, so suck it up buttercup, you are replaceable snowflake.
The reality is that VMW is doing this based on dollar and cents alone—-they don’t give a cr-p about their employees health. Anybody impacted by this cowardly decision is simply collateral damage in the eyes of management and they have chosen to live with it, pathetic as it is. They certainly have the right to run the business how they choose to and they have elected to discriminate against a group of people who elect not to put something in their body they don't want. Hopefully they are at least upfront about it that this is all about the $$$ and nothing else. I would at least have some respect for them if that is what is communicated. At a minimum, they should certainly remove the “I” from the supposed EPIC values. There is no integrity in discriminating against and firing a group of people because they do not want to inject certain dr-gs in their body. Throw that integrity Value out the window VMW as you have none. For those immature people who somehow think it is reasonable for your employer or government to tell you what you can and can’t put in your body, I pity you. A common reference to people such as that is “sheep”. LOL.
The government is using companies to do their dirty work in their pay to play scheme. Comply to their mandates or don't get a seat at the trough of the American tax payer. COVID is a made made bio we---n being used by governments for nefarious means. The brainwashed can take the booster shots all day long; and promote the lying and money making propaganda of the vaccines when a cures have been available all along. The vaccines are not for your health; they are for mass population control. VMWare is playing into the lies for capital gain. You can wipe your a-s with your a-s with your EPIC values.
Lives and money.
VMware's decision will not only save employee lives, it will also save all of us employees a great deal of money.
https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/brief/unvaccinated-covid-patients-cost-the-u-s-health-system-billions-of-dollars/
- VMware is self insured and pays out of pocket for our healthcare costs.
- UnitedHealthcare, Kaiser, etc. are all administering VMware money.
This is simple math, and good ethics. People who refuse to get a vaccine for Covid are costing the global economy billions of dollars and millions of lives.
VMware is choosing to do the right thing.
Covid deniers and anti-vax people are the last group who should be in roles in businesses with billions of $ at stake.
VMware, along with most sane corporations, have zero intention of continuing to pay out of pocket for avoidable hospitalizations, and they have the best carrot to get the 'reluctant' off the fence.
In the US alone, 700K people have died. The vaccines are far less harmful than getting a serious case of Covid without having taken the vaccine.
Compared to getting Covid as an unvaccinated person, any of the vaccine choices on the market will do far less harm to the human involved.
You are welcome to quit if you don't agree. We'll miss you, and some of us will be sad you're taking such a horrific risk in the middle of a pandemic. I hope you find your professional tribe of people, and no one gets sick. But that hasn't been anyone's experience world wide. Good luck to you all.
There will be lawsuits and I hope these companies lose.
What's the claim? Civil? Criminal?
What's the lawsuit going to charge?
Could you sue a company for having a 'no dr-gs' policy in a state that has legalized MJ after getting a positive test for THC?
There will be lawsuits and I hope these companies lose.
https://firstliberty.org/vaccine-protection-kit/
Do not go gentle into that good night,
Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Regardless of what one believes about the efficacy of the vaccine, it is quite simple that it cannot be forced on anyone at-least in this great country (where there is some semblance of law/order still left). Yes, VMware has the right to set conditions for employment within the framework of the constitution. Whether discrimination on the basis of COVID vaccine status and subsequent payroll removal is a discriminatory/unlawful practice is a question that only time and courts will answer. There is clearly no point in discussing personal morals and ethics. We live by the law of the land. And only the law will come to our rescue. So those who will not be taking the vaccine, use your energy properly in exploring your legal options.
It's not surprising that leftist leaning people immediately resort to
name-calling, shaming and bullying when they can't actually debate an idea.
What's the idea?
All I see is a lot of ranting about how a vaccine is going to ki-l you, and you should have the freedom to not take it.
News flash: You do have the freedom to not take it.
But, vmware also has the freedom to dictate employment conditions.
risk and that somehow we are putting others in danger because we
don’t want the experimental shot, please know that you are putting our
life at risk by insisting we take it.
Do you have proof that your life is at risk from taking the vaccine? Please show it.
How exactly is your life at risk by taking the vaccine? What makes it life threatening? Why are there no stories about mass death worldwide from people taking it?
It's not surprising that leftist leaning people immediately resort to name-calling, shaming and bullying when they can't actually debate an idea.
Wow, the antivaxers and disinformation corps are really out in force here today.
One thing we must understand is that this message from Ragu is timed to give us minimum time to react and pressure us to succumb with a clear warning that we will be on unpaid leave. VMware legal would have gamed our response to this notice. Know that the only way to protect yourself is through legal means. It’s very unfortunate that VMware is giving up on its employees.
A major side effect of this COVID pandemic is that we seem to have lost all common sense. I don’t think any of us against this experimental shot is anti-bad. We have taken vaccines and will take them in the future as well. The issue is only with this specific experimental mRNA shot.
To the person claiming that it has full FDA approval. Only Pfizer’s Conmirnaty has full approval and it is not even available! What is being injected today is will the experimental shot. I guess they won’t tell you that on CNN, will they?
To the person overreacting about how life is full of risk and that somehow we are putting others in danger because we don’t want the experimental shot, please know that you are putting our life at risk by insisting we take it. You are welcome to take as many shots as you want. Please leave us alone. We live by the constitutional laws of this great country and not by the morality of public opinion.
Once I have received the above information in full and I am satisfied that there is NO
threat to my health, I will be happy to accept your offer to receive the treatment, but
with certain conditions – namely that:
You confirm in writing that I will suffer no harm.
What is wrong with your brain?
Do you expect assurances that you will suffer no harm in driving to work?
Do you expect assurances from grocers that the onions you buy have no salmonella?
Are you ok to trip and fall down the stairs at work?
Do you understand how brakes on cars work? Are they safe enough for you? Why?
Life is full of risks. The covid vaccine is not one of them.
For immediate release:
The Covid Vaccines are NOT experiemental.
THey have full FDA approval.
End of story.
- Can you please advise the approved legal status of any vaccine and if it is experimental?
- Can you please provide details and assurances that the vaccine has been fully, independently and rigorously tested against control groups and the subsequent outcomes of those tests?
- Can you please advise the entire list of contents of the vaccine I am to receive and if any are toxic to the body?
- Can you please fully advise of all the adverse reactions associated with this vaccine since it’s introduction?
- Can you please confirm that the vaccine you are advocating is NOT experimental mRNA gene altering therapy?
- Can you please confirm that I will not be under any duress from yourselves as my employers, in compliance with the Nuremberg Code?
- Can you please advise me of the likely risk of fatality, should I be unfortunate to contract Covid 19 and the likelihood of recovery?
- Can you please advise me if I were to experience any adverse reactions is the manufacturer of the vaccine liable? If the manufacturer isn’t liable will the company I’m currently employed with with be responsible & liable as it is their request that I have the vaccine in order to carry on my employment?
Once I have received the above information in full and I am satisfied that there is NO threat to my health, I will be happy to accept your offer to receive the treatment, but with certain conditions – namely that:
- You confirm in writing that I will suffer no harm.
- Following acceptance of this, the offer must be signed by a fully qualified doctor who will take full legal and financial responsibility for any injuries occurring to myself, and/or from any interactions by authorized personnel regarding these procedures.
- In the event that I should have to decline the offer of vaccination, please confirm that it will not compromise my position and that I will not suffer prejudice and discrimination as a result?
I would also advise that my inalienable rights are reserved.
Let's go Brandon!
What cowards Ragu and leadership are. Rolling over like puppies at the first word. To scared to call the bluff. VMware is on the way down for the count.
They call it vaccine, but it's not vaccine. My aunt died within 24 taking that sh-t. Dr refuse to even report it , claim she had an heart attack. and she never had heart issue. This thing not preventing you getting, not preventing you from spreading, it's completely BS. take it if you like but i'm ready to get fired.
If you won't get vaccinated, please quit. There are people at vmware who CANNOT take the vaccine due to other issues. You are selfish if you want to put them at risk.
You are free to put yourself in whatever mortal risk YOU want, but you have no right to risk other's lives.
Are there any other safety rules of society that you reject?
Do you stop at red lights? Do you wear a seatbelt? Do you leave your food unrefrigerrated? Do you cross the street without looking for cars? Do you throw all your trash on the ground?
Vaccine mandate = shedding employees that would have been a legal liability down the road.
Did VMware not see what happened with South West Airlines?
VMware has broken the trust with employees. Sabotage is coming.
There is no way we can be forced to an experimental shot. Do a +1 to this post if you are planning to not comply. We will need to organize soon. Let's call their bluff.
They better offer a nice exit package or sh-t is going to happen.
Here comes Harmeet Dhillon.
Lol those contracts are huge money. Healthcare vertical was already requiring it so time to buck up or find a new job I guess.
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