Thread regarding Shell Oil layoffs

Now that they are dropping the "Royal" from the company name, does this mean no more job protection for NL employees?

I was told that the reason the NL seems to have a lot more job security than anyone else in Shell is because, as a "Royal" designated company in the NL, they are obligated to jump through hoops and get permission from "staff council" to get rid of a position in the NL. For a company to get the "Royal" designation in the NL by the government is a high barrier,

Does today's announcement mean that they are changing the name from "Royal Dutch Shell" to simply, "Shell plc" mean that those job protections for NL employees are now over?

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@OP+1dQj29gc is a cvx post that takes for granted that shell and bp will merge. a merger has been thought about for at least the last 98 years, back when bp was anglo-persian. national pride and national interests stood in the way. no more. bp led the green path under lord browne when it adopted the helios logo. bp sold off its us oil a few years back. shell is years behind bp on a path to mediocrity. what makes shell think they can achieve attractive returns competing in the low margins renewables space with another giant leading the way? they can't but maybe they can eliminate the competition.

and the boards and c suites will get a big payday.

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Post ID: @cafe+1dPl0rzY

Joke joke joke of a company. So sad to see what happened after 22 good years. No longer a meritocracy but all about DIE white males. Ironic how many toxic Trading jobs cross my desk from LinkedIn. Word is on the street how bad a culture Shell is. Let’s talk about supplier diversity, DEI, etc versus an actual business strategy. SMH.

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Post ID: @5oww+1dPl0rzY

Cutting headcount might improve the bottom line. Companies often do it in an industry wide race to the bottom and then publicise their employee abuse to appease investors.
But it also often increases risk. Just ask BP with its deadly refinery explosions and its deadly subsea well explosion and on and on, all rooted in cost cutting. The once glorious, verdant Beyond Petroleum is now a fifth rate company. But they are still closing in on the once great Royal Dutch Shell, now scared of their own shadow.
Are there adequate controls in place to monitor and manage risk? Or is risk just pushed down to the lower rank and file so that management have their scapegoats? ("If you don't like it , there are ten other sycophants ready to take your place!")
But Shell is really cutting heads because they are slowly transitioning from a labor intensive and capex heavy business to a business that requires large upfront spend but less cost and less people to run and maintain.
The oil business can be very profitable but also volatile and is so tied to global politics that only Big Oil can survive the risk, cost, and losses. The industry will continue to consolidate as Russia and Saudi Arabia flip each other the bird, like Nero fiddling.
Renewables generate low margins. They require all sorts of incentives to ramp up and hopefully achieve "take off".
Think governments are going to tolerate letting the energy companies they subsidised turn around and charge their restless, angry citizenry high prices to stay warm? Not going to happen.
Think wind farms and solar power will command above average returns, even though anybody can put solar panels on their house and eat into the market share? No.
Renewables will never rise to oil's profit potential.
Layoffs at Shell are part of a longer term strategy to transition to this low margin business, not to boost the stock price. The stock price is kept afloat by stock buybacks funded by asset sales, and working capital and steady dividends funded by low interest debt.
So the layoffs disguised as MOR's are a sign of lower profit expectations.
Why doesn't management take advantage of high oil prices NOW, sell off the dirty assets NOW, and immediately fund green assets? Then Shell could take a real lead over the competition and dominate the renewables space?
Why? Because the shift to a business that will NEVER match oil's profitability would be so noticeable to the stockholders that the board would be voted out immediately.
Transitioning slowly is not so noticeable. But it leaves a big opening for competitors to enter these brave, new markets. And drain Shell's moat. And drive down industry margins.
This whole song and dance about a transitional period is bu-----t. Shell is being duplicitous and their middle of the road approach will leave them squashed, like grape.

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Post ID: @4nrt+1dPl0rzY

As soon as they get to UK if not before, the merger talks with BP will start. The fit is natural. They move in lock step and compete only in trying to show the world who can be the bigger bagina. BP and Shell are so much alike they almost finish each other's sentences. Two weak energy companies merging into one exponentially weaker company. But remember, we just gotta keep those awful Hobbit-like Scots out of the home office. We've only just deodorized the company after the BG buyout. Their stench still fills my nostrils. Do we remember history? Or forget anything more than 3 MORs ago?

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Post ID: @2cta+1dPl0rzY

I’ve found that a lot of the NL folk love to preach diversity and inclusion, yet they often talk to each other in Dutch in an English-based country. So much for inclusion. At least Brits share a common language with us

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Post ID: @1ifb+1dPl0rzY

Oh boy, now we can have even more condescending Brits smiling to our faces all the while knifing us in meetings amongst themselves.
Never more true: the US and UK are two countries separated by a common language, plus a boatload of UK inferiority angst dating back decades.
Rue Britannia!

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Post ID: @1csm+1dPl0rzY

Wow, asking about Black Lives Matter?
This is the way how dutch diverts it.
Is there any similar initiative in nl?
The people in the USA are discussing about fairness/ unfairness by demonstrations, movements etc. you guys assume that you do not have any such perceptions and ignore the issue all together. It is not talked about in your media at all.
My comment is based on personal observations, yours is just what you see In the general news

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Post ID: @1cso+1dPl0rzY

Bye-bye special people 🤣😂👋🏼

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Post ID: @1vzc+1dPl0rzY

Besides refining what does shell do in NL? If they want access to the EU, move to germany where the real power sits. NAM is being sold, and the rest of the peripheral business units can all be done out of London. So objectively this is the right move, i do appreciate the uncertainty for NL staff but to honest its about time they went through what the rest of the global shell staff have gone through with job cuts and uncertainty. I hope the NL staff gravy train is over!

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Post ID: @1bxb+1dPl0rzY

"way more than Americans ever were"

were ? "black lives matter" much ?

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Post ID: @1vdm+1dPl0rzY

it is dutch against dutch! The person that initiated it is dutch, the government that he is acting against is dutch.
It is all about deceiving the system as they always do. Do not expect anything else.
Dutch are hypocrites by nature, they are always for profit and they are racist ( way more than Americans ever were), they always claim otherwise
In this case they will loose money so they relocate. It is all about that

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Post ID: @1mnz+1dPl0rzY

They're uppity. Nuff said.

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Post ID: @1nlg+1dPl0rzY

Netherlands employees are simply superior … deal with it ……

Sincerely,

Dutch T. Roll

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Post ID: @ldo+1dPl0rzY

I hope this means Shell can get out of the stupid Dutch emission reduction mandate. NL is full of entitled pricks who think they can survive off renewable energy and expect everyone else to follow suit. Let's see how they would like a winter without nat gas...

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Post ID: @rvk+1dPl0rzY

If you go to The Hub and just read the comments, you can tell the Dutch staff know that this is going to negatively affect them.

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Post ID: @qzd+1dPl0rzY

The staff council requirement is not Dutch Labor law….it is specific to companies that have the Royal designation. KLM and Shell employees in The Netherlands enjoy more job security than employees in other non-Royal Dutch companies.

So yes, it should now be easier to get rid of NL jobs and n Shell

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Post ID: @yos+1dPl0rzY

Finally, hopefully we can get rid of those arrogant unsackable NL staff

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Post ID: @qnb+1dPl0rzY

Socialist countries like NL have robust labor laws to provide the citizenry with the illusion of worker protection - it's mostly just to ensure the government maintains a steady tax base. How else can you convince reasonable people to work to 68 years old, happily handing over ~75% of their annual paycheck to the government?

Over the next year or so, you can expect leaders to begin relocating to London en masse, wasting more Shell euros to be near the 'power vortex'. As most Shell employees know, relationships rudder the company, not leadership competence.

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Post ID: @zcj+1dPl0rzY

Flipping off the Dutch court? Wow, Ben actually has te------s (actually the board). Will directors need to change?

This move to avoid the Dutch ruling should make some GOOOOD VIEWIN' at the next TED Talk!

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Post ID: @bvz+1dPl0rzY

NL increasingly hostile to Shell. Happy to see them leave. Dutch dividend tax will go away I hear. Expect stream of terminations coming for locals supporting HO functions and others later.

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Post ID: @hpn+1dPl0rzY

Only if dropping royal means that Dutch labor laws are also dropped

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