You think people are not buying FORD now.......Lol Wait.
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yeah I've been around a while so I remember during the medieval plagues when big pharma and the government and the news networks and the Catholic church and Bill Gates and Klaus Schwab and the social media giants all used fear and propaganda to control people and take over the world money supply
@6cdv - I try to avoid mentioning the grandiose conspiracies of the Great Reset and covid being one of the several factors to make it happen since it causes most to stop listening to logic, regardless of the many points that suggest it could be a possibility. Those that want to know more will look into it, those who don't will stop listening. It's like telling a young man that his girl friend may be cheating on him.... he's not going to listen until he's ready to, which is after he's figured it out for himself.
I see our societal response to covid to be tremendously like the medieval response to the bubonic plague. The fear drove society to a wide range of actions, all almost entirely ineffective, that seemed to them highly logical based on their world view. The details may be different, but we're repeating both the isolation and mask wearing that failed for them. The way the vaxes are being pushed seems comes across as the masses seeing them much like a magic talisman, regardless of their effectiveness. Why else push them on those who have recovered and naturally experienced the same physiological reaction that the vaccines try to stimulate?
TL;DR - us humans are completely irrational when we experience fear the face of unknown threats.
@5ezv - for some of us the concern the concern is our privacy. Ford says that they can't ask us since they aren't covered by HIPAA, which also means they aren't subject to the same strong penalties for sharing that is provided by HIPAA.
You people who can't see through the great reset and vaccine propaganda crack me up
I am protecting myself from big pharma side effects by not taking big pharma dr-gs.
You people crack me up I was waiting in line to get vaccinated I am now retired but I did not need Ford to tell me to try to protect myself
@4vgf+1d2KQFU4 - so true! Love the "involuntary separation from the good health that they had".....time will definitely tell. Might be A LOT of jobs available soon....especially in companies with over 100 employee's that mandate the V (not that any of US would take those jobs).
There's a whole new definition of WOKE! ;)
I'm sure the trolls will be hitting the down arrow on this tonight. LOL
Hourly employees will end up being exempt. There will be some excuse presented, but Ds don't want to alienate their union base.
Although that base doesn't seem to mind it lately...
Many of the non-trouble making sheeple who took the so called vax they may unfortunately get an involuntary separation from what good health they had before they became subjects of an experimental genetic therapy with no long term safety data. A so called vaccine that protects them from mostly from the totalitarian government and social mob.
Heck yes I reported my vax status. It's a freaking competitive advantage. You know darn well that when they are making up the list of involuntary separations, you bet they will be checking the vax list to get rid of the trouble makers that will make getting back in the office. The anti vax won't have to quit, Ford will take care of that for them before the end of the year with an involuntary separation as a Christmas gift.
You guys want your management team to get their full bonuses right? So help them meet their targets and report your Vax status.
Friendly reminder. Report your vax status by NEXT FRIDAY OR ELSE!!!
Thank you in advance for obeying and submitting to this mandatory order.
UAW and USPS have union contracts that would need to be renegotiated to add the "vaccine" requirement.
When the totalitarians start requiring "vaccines" to buy groceries and/or leave your house then even people with strong union contracts will be pressured to take the clot shot.
I assume the UAW is not included because issues related to vaccination status would fall under their contract, so it will take a lot more effort to coerce them than the non-union workers. I am sure they will eventually try to push it to them, too.
I am not bashing the UAW here. Keep in mind they work in the plants physically when we have chips. But that survey that HR just sent out Mentions Salaried / Agency / Purchased services only. Is there any reason why the UAW was left out? Do they have a different strain of COVID? Maybe COVID 21 That we are not aware of1
Why are they left out? This sounds like discrimination to me. Keep in mind most of the salaried workers in SE Michigan work form home and will continue. So why are they targeted? This BS Hybrid program stating we need to meet together to be more creative is pure "BS". Since web x how many of you have had in person meetings.. Not many... I guess Jeffry Fieger is my new best friend (ref movie Office Space)
Vioxx approved 1999 and pulled 2004
Most approved dr-gs that will never be pulled are not safe and/or effective
FDA, AMA, Big Pharma are massively corrupt
But put on your mask and take your experimental shotz because totalitarian mob demands it
Vaccinated still get the virus.
Vaccinated still die from virus.
Vaccinated still pass virus.
Vaccinated will always get boosters (leaky vaccine).
It's so easy to pick out in this thread the totalitarian supporters and have any of them heard of Antibody Dependent Enhancement?
If my health is affected by the cpvid vaccine does Ford take full reponsibility and fully pay for my health care needs. So far there is no OSHA guidance on even dates forget about all the questions
@1iei they are counting on a large portion of US workers retiring/resigning. They are massively gearing up in India. I am aware of 350 US IT F and FC workers who were just told to find new positions in the company after having trained Indian replacements ( and conveniently after the VSSP window had closed). There aren’t 350 Jobs online that they are “qualified” for. Our department head told us that 100 IT took the VSSP, and that the marching orders are to backfill those positions in India. So where will those 350 workers go? F is likely hoping they retire or resign so they don’t have to pay severance.
With the pandemic my social sphere is limited so my guess is that 350 is just a small portion of the US workers F wants to eliminate.
Oh but Alexandria got a promotion so we are good.
Jump, loonies-hit that Down arrow!
You people are soooooo laughable.
Go ahead a sue. You probably won't win and if you do, you won't get squat. Quit fighting the vaccine and just take it. If it was SOOOOOO dangerous, why would almost 1/2 the world's population already started their vaccines?
the totalitarian religion that demands people get injected with any substance against their will in the name of "public health" and "safety" is a sick one. even more so when almost all the information about the so called vaccine safety and efficacy is lies and propaganda.
Wonder if the company has done any calculations about how many people will just up and retire if they go the next step and require the vax....this really worries me.
Based on the posts here and on the company's own internal web site (where the company disabled comments less than a day after the article about the mandates - which by the way are not law, and could be fought by Ford if they wanted to fight them), my high level napkins estimates say probably at least 40% of employees are against, and it could go up even to near 50%. Thrown in that likely fact at least half or more of those people are retirement eligible, and by years end or early 2022 Ford could find itself with 3,000 to 5,000 less people in a short period of time- and this does not even account for the blue collar factory workers, which again about 40% of them could retire, too, and than number could easily double.
Yes, Ford wants get rid of more people - but not that many all at once. It would literally ki-l the company. America has a rapidly aging workforce - multiple the Ford impact of going along with this mandate by 500 to 1,000 companies, and it would be a very nasty picture for the US of A. There are literally shortages of workers everywhere, it would only get worse by a factor of ten. All of us should be worried, and all employers should push back on this mandate for that reason alone.
To @1ghs+1d2KQFU4:
The treatments (they are not vaccines in any medical sense, that is until the FDA changed the definition of what a vaccine could be about three weeks ago) have aborted fetus tissue in them, - that would be enough for just about any religion.
@1tkn, show me any legitimate religion that bars its followers from taking vaccines. I'll wait.
@1iom, I suspect that the religious exemptions are going to fairly limited since this can also serve as yet another tool to clear the ranks of well-compensated employees who may just happen to object to being forced into a medical treatment.
@1udh+1d2KQFU4, it's at the behest of the federal govt but is forcing private companies to do the enforcement, that's the concern.
If it's for workplace safety where co-workers mingle why would Ford need to enforce the mandate on those who have been doing full-time remote work successfully for 18 months straight now? A less unreasonable policy would be that those who must work on site or physically interact with others are required to be vaxxed.
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/daily-labor-report/oshas-planned-covid-vaccine-rule-has-firms-asking-whats-next
Ford is testing the waters how many they would need to test, fire, etc. if they don't cave to be subjected against their free will to the experimental "vaccine"
Section 3 in the bloomberglaw article above is good info. The religious exemption route could work for many who don't buy into the pro vax religious hysteria.
I wonder when you clowns are going to figure out this is a federal rule for any company with over 100 employees and not something Ford enacted on their own.
Watch out for those hourly legal fees, they'll get ya.
Lawyering up because the F asked for proof of vaxx this AM and is getting ready to shed employees who don't want to shed the spike protein experimental "vaxxx" maybe? See threads below.
Don’t get it - why are they lawyering up? Provide more details, please?