Thread regarding Union Pacific Corp. layoffs

Diploma over skills

It will never be clear to me why UP values a person with a degree from a mediocre university with almost no relevant experience more than a person who has acquired his knowledge over the years from the necessary practical experience?
The experience is the least valued here and I think that is awful. That is why the situation at UP is as it is.

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Go hire some more guys with diploma that wear skinny jeans and wear hair buns . See how it turns out.

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Post ID: @2yri+1ciaJf9E

Upper level management is a self licking ice cream cone...

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Post ID: @2sfw+1ciaJf9E

Mangers can still go back on seniority.

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Post ID: @1oui+1ciaJf9E

Unfortunately, that's generally how the world runs. If you look at the stats, a lot of drop outs are due to dr-g addiction, mental illness (mainly anger management) and inability to get along with others. Some are either expelled or suspended from school. Of course there are a few that actually make it in the world big but those are far and few in between. It's not fair to judge but that's what companies generally do.

Even those jobs that do not require degrees will hire someone with one over someone without. Just get one and work multiple jobs to pay it off. That's what a lot of students are doing.

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Post ID: @1aji+1ciaJf9E

It’s not just the railroads that do this but all corporations. Work knowledge is great for those actually doing the work. This doesn’t necessarily translate to higher level management. The days of working your way to the top without a degree are gone. It is a shame, but that’s the way corporations operate now.

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Post ID: @1cub+1ciaJf9E

Bcuz someone from the rank & file who worked their way up might dare say "that is not a good idea, here is why".
UP also had a problem w/ too many who promoted into management going back on their seniority when they grew tired of being abused as a manager. Instead of fixing why there was high manager turnover, they just instant presto eliminated the option of bidding back.

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Post ID: @1ghp+1ciaJf9E

It's because them college folks don't know how the industry operates on the ground level. So they then can push the completely unrealistic goals/metrics and expectations that the upper brass want and not understand why those expectations aren't met.

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Post ID: @1zdh+1ciaJf9E

You need to understand the indoctrination effect “get an education” has on people. Do you expect someone who was brain washed into accumulating a huge student debt to enter a company then swallow their pride and admit a coworker w/o the student debt but with work experience is a better asset to the company than they are? Do you think these possessors of diploma mill degrees are going to promote experts in their field to be anywhere near the same room as their bosses so the bosses could compare who knows what? I got my degree the old fashion way, my dad who was an engineer put me thru school. Once he saw my 1st jobs paycheck he scoffed and said “the railroad pays better than that” so within a year I hired on. 25+ years ago. College was more fun than anything else, but my IQ did NOT increase from my time there. I learned more working and actually doing than I ever did in any classroom. Since college I made more money than about half of my college buddies, but they are catching up and sometimes I had to work alot more and worse hours.

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