Notice that the requirement is to be committed to REMAINING fully vaccinated according to CDC standard. You are basically signing away your right to make decisions as the data evolves. Give up your rights to keep your job. The choice is up to you.
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Britain is now requiring 3, count 'em THREE shots for people to be considered fully vaccinated.
Like someone said, the people will 5 shots will be blaming the people who only got 4. Now, the people with 3 shots will be blaming those who only got 2.
Moving goal posts much?
As a private employer CF is well within their legal rights to require the vaccination as a condition of employment. The only thing that would slow this down or prevent it is a union contract and the employees at CF don't have a union. As long as there is an exception for medical reasons and/or deeply held religious beliefs, there's not a lot you can do about it.
Think about this:
For the first time ever, a vaccine's ineffectiveness is being blamed on those who haven't taken it.
"Yeah, that's it, and don't stop at red lights any longer or obey speeding limits. NEVER pull over for a fire truck with its sirens and lights flashing. Constantly being stepped on by the man to keep yourself and others out of harms way. Can you f'ng believe the nerve of these people."
You're not so good at making comparisons my friend. This is how I can tell the quality of CF employees has gone downhill. Those infractions can result in you perhaps getting a ticket. Hardly anyone can enforce those unless you're caught. This mandate can result in injury, job loss, or even death. Hidden away in the governments regulations and enforcement entities is this little thing called FECA (no not that brown substance that you, dear poster, like to roll around in).
I've posted it here for you to read, but I fear your lack of comprehension would prevent you from grasping......words:
https://www.dol.gov/agencies/owcp/FECA/regs/compliance/DFECfolio/FECABulletins/FY2020-2024#FECAB2201
You see, even CF has admitted in their compliance form that adverse reactions do occur. If you mandate, as a private employer, "vaccination" against Covid-19 any and all adverse events as a result of said jabs are now chargeable to CF as the Federal Government itself has deemed that "mandated" vaccinations are indeed injuries that occurred while performing the job in question, irrespective of where the jab took place.
Comprende CF and legal? Said "adverse events" are expected.
Moderna and Pfizer may be immune from lawsuit but CF is not, and further, the precedent by the Federal Government itself now exists based on their own public statement that if an employee gets screwed by the jab you demanded they take you're on the hook whether that injury is evident five minutes afterward or five years later.
So dear poster, I await your emotionally charged response that you furiously pounded away at your keyboard to generate. Like a monkey writing Shakespeare.
I’m so discouraged by the notion that everything in this case is seen in black and white terms. You got the vaccine or you’re an imbecile. Life doesn’t work that way. I can question the vaccine and also support my friends, family and coworkers who have. I can also say that it is no RIGHT of CF to enforce a mandate to do so. Be kind to one another. You might be unafraid to get the vaccine but there may be people who are. It’s not as simple as everyone might think.
"Remember, never in history, have those people who forced others into compliance been the good guys."
Yeah, that's it, and don't stop at red lights any longer or obey speeding limits. NEVER pull over for a fire truck with its sirens and lights flashing. Constantly being stepped on by the man to keep yourself and others out of harms way. Can you f'ng believe the nerve of these people.
How does the company get away with managers asking for vaccination status and attestations without violating HIPAA rules? What about all of the mandatory annual training that drills HIPAA compliance into us annually? Managers should NOT be running around with vaccination status/medical records and asking about status of their employees.
Remember, never in history, have those people who forced others into compliance been the good guys.
Perhaps Carefirst should take after Intel, what you would call a science-driven company, who are not enforcing a mandate.
Not only that, vaccinated employees cannot say they do not want to work with unvaccinated employees. (Policy 8.4)
Not only that, Intel FORBIDS managers from asking for vaccination status. (Policy 8.13)
Not only that, Intel ACCEPTS antibodies as a full substitute for vaccination for people who must quarantine after a Covid exposure or for travel requirements. (Policy 1.2)
True story.
Source: https://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/central-libraries/us/en/documents/coronavirus-communication.pdf
I wish whoever stated this 1500 number would bet me a million dollars! I would be rich enough to retire!
Y’all have some seriously distorted martyr complex. 😂
Execs are quaking in their boots, folks! Will they really lay off upwards of 1,500 employees? If they do, will the company be able to survive? It’s nearly game time. This is Civil Disobedience at its best!
In the last couple weeks I have heard more from my manager about vaccine attestation then all other topics combined. Managers and directors are obviously getting beaten up by senior leaders about this.
So much for the Nov 1 deadline. We have the Oct 1st atteststion deadline and I was told by my “people leader” it needed to be done right away. What? OVERACHIEVER!!
Whether you are pro-vax or anti, you have to consider CF's financial stake in the matter. The CFO just told us a few weeks ago that CF is paying out big bucks, not for the shots, but for the COVID TESTS. Like other lab work, most people that are covered by a CF policy pay little or nothing for a Covid test, so CF has to pick up the bill. Lots of people get tested "just to make sure." The more people they get vaccinated, the sooner the payout slows.
Who's the CareFirst simp monitoring the up/down votes? The spike protein in your blood probably microclotted in your cranial capillaries already.
fyi someone is manipulating the upvotes on this thread. I saw all provax posts go from negative to positive then negative again in a few days. The opposite for antivax posts. Swings of up and down 30 votes. It's prob just 1 or 2 ppl posting all the antivax nonsense.
Yep saw it. Australia is going nuts over these mandates, you can't make people do things they don't want to do:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/3auTMtVi9DaS/
Bots...bots? From what I can gather so many people balked at that pledge so it doesn't surprise me this is a popular thread. It's a hot button issue anyhow.
Hey, anyone else noticing the mass anti-mandate protests in Australia? I feel liek we're weeks away from something big.
You're calling everyone that ups a post you dont agree with "tin hat folks" yet youre claiming somehow somebody had a "bot" do the upvoting when this site is literally just a venting platform that means nothing???? okie dokie. and theyre the crazy ones....lol maybe this is just a topic that theres more people that feel differently about this subject than you think there are. i got the shot and still feel that people should make their own choice....does that make me a tin foil hat wearing antivax infiltrator as call it? you crazy
General Dynamics did not cancel it's vaccine mandate. Proof: https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-110281418430
I think this site has been infiltrated by antivaxxers. That crowd is all about posting misinformation. No other post has gotten close to 20 upvotes. Seems like a bot or "brigading" by the Tin Hat folks.
Let the downvotes pour upon me (proving my point!)
Question for everyone. When your coworker you like and worked with for years who didn't get vakksd gets fired, what would you say to them?
This is a back-handed way to talk anti-vax trash. The Mandate is completely fine and there have been vaccine mandates for jobs/travel/school for ages.
Grow up.
Yes everyone who doesn't want to be vaccinated should quit. Let's go!
My advice to anyone who doesn't like this choice being made for them is if you're angry then be angry. The reason companies are bullying their (and yes it is bullying - even if it's supposedly good for you) employees to get the jab is because the employER isn't feeling the heat like WE are.
They're making us jump through hoops like good little dogs, why make it easy for them? I mean, everyone knows CF has been sucking for a good while now.
With just a bit over half the company signing that cringy, cheesy pledge, they think THIS is going to help morale? How does this support any of us? I understand setting an example but this isn't support. Don't you wish YOU could tell these execs, "You're subject to termination".
Someone just told me about this site lol. I'm so very glad to see there's some more other people that are just really uncomfortable with this. What's everyone going to do?
Now that POTUS has said that the mandate applies to all companies over 100 people where are you really going though if you decide not to get the vaccine. Good luck
General Dynamics Corporation just cancelled their vaxx mandate.40% of their employees remained unvxxd & were prepared to walk.
You really want to do this CareFirst?
Umm... if you think this is anti-vax, then you are missing the entire point. But go ahead.... let someone else tell you how to live your life. Sign away your right to decide for yourself what is best for you. Don’t worry about those of us who actually know how to think for ourselves,... trust me, we will be fine. . And for the record, I AM vaccinated . And for that reason, I don’t think anyone should be forced to do this. If you are vaccinated, then you’ll be fine, right?? Those who choose not to vaccinate have every right to take that risk and they will live with anything that arises. That’s their choice to make. If you are so worried, then you are indicating that the vaccine is not as good as promoted, so you are hurting your own cause by being worried about the unvaccinated. What’s right for you might not be right for someone else. Live and let live.
Maybe you should rage quit?
Stop with the Anti-Vax nonsense it's tired when people are dying every day.
It’s bait and switch. Tell employees they have to attest to being vaccinated by a certain day. Fine. Current conditions have people scared about the virus, so it may be acceptable to some people for the current crisis. But THEN CF goes beyond the pandemic to make the actual agreement require employees do that vaccination PLUS whatever CDC decides to do on any given day in the future. Is it even legal for an employer to mandate an employee agree to do anything that some entity determines in the future? I know this supposedly went through CF legal, but this feels very, VERY wrong. Ethically, it IS wrong, even if it is determined to be legal.
Wow!!! What happened to Carefirst not
So great anymore sheep following sheep, I guess all the lions got laid off!!!
Read what you sign and read it carefully, this isn't some website disclaimer.
No way in he-l anyone should sign this.