Thread regarding Intel Corp. layoffs

Intel+GF, on the surface looks like brilliance, but in reality its going to be a disaster

Intel leading edge node, no lagging node, Foundry business, no standard foundry support. Viola buy GF, who has legacy node, full compliment of customers and lots of the ecosystem that intel tried and spent years trying to make and failed to deliver in their past attempt at foundry.

But wait what really is GF. The collection of failed IDM and Foundry of IBM, AMD and Charter and a su---r Sugardaddy who pour tons of money into a money losing operation. To this day they have struggled to find a money making business plan even with generous sugardaddy and huge tax breaks from New York, still a failure.

This timing is classic intel, desperate old and rich man looking to buy a wife and finds some ugly discarded and deformed old maid, overpay and when they finally beget the child it'll be late and deformed and enter the world facing a couple high performing foundry that also just outspent them by 10x in world full of surplus of silicon capacity.

Brilliance indeed, what a FUBAR!

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Post ID: @OP+1bRioNHK

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GF (14 nm) and Intel (10nm) are getting together to create a winner that can beat TSMC by 2025!

TSMC would have released 3 nm chips by 2025 and will be well on its way to 2nm…/4nm.. what a plan!

X86 may not remain an ISA of choice by then … (arm servers, ai graphics compute)…

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Post ID: @gzvn+1bRioNHK

Both CEOs acknowledged that GF acquisition was a rumour created by Saudi controllers who want to raise, dump and get out of GF fast. This makes sense...they were never smart enough to run the foundry business....just quick $$$ profits.

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Post ID: @4vax+1bRioNHK

@1oua, been true for 10 years

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Post ID: @1smy+1bRioNHK

There's a huge market for trailing edge

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Post ID: @sye+1bRioNHK

I see that as overcompensation for a totally ill positioned company with a culture that has failed to identify the pivot in the industry 10 years ago and is now a decade behind in transformation and thinks Grovian Back is the Future.
@jwf+1bRioNHK

This.

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Post ID: @zrx+1bRioNHK

The mess just get a lot bigger, lol. It might work if only the competitors are not a very smart TSMC and a very cut throat Samsung. Good luck.

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Post ID: @yia+1bRioNHK

That's a bit surprising (if not ironic) but I think it may make sense in a way. It's been pretty clear that Mudabala (an Abu Dhabi fund that bought AMD fabs in 2008 which then became GlobalFoundries) wanted to unload that investment after they stopped shoving money into failed process developments (GloFo licensed their 14nm from Samsung as a reminder after their own 14 failed, and their 7nm failed too), so no surprise on their end.
From Intel's perspective, there are also some US assets from IBM, which GloFo "acquired" in 2014 (for -1.5 billion at the time), which includes some oldish US fabs, but also a patent portfolio. It certainly goes into the current US political narrative that Gelsinger has been pushing.
But perhaps more importantly, I think that what Intel is buying is what was sorely lacking them : people and a methodology of working with external customers. From all I've heard over the years, Intel's process and design teams are so insular and out of touch with the rest of the industry's practices that they had a terrible time just working with customers. It wasn't pretty when they tried the two previous time to open up their process. Loads of announcements, few products if any coming out, and when it worked, they ended up buying their customers anyway, see Altera.
If Intel truly wants to go in the foundry direction, they'll get some interesting outside experience, and while it may not make sense from a pure process point of view, considering how much of a sore point their inability to make it work has been on their previous attempts, the idea may have a lot of merit.
Perhaps a very smart move from Gelsinger, time will tell, in the meantime I'll have a laugh at Intel buying AMD's old fabs :)

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Post ID: @gxw+1bRioNHK

Let’s not forget the long history of failed Intel acquisitions!

Intel has a very strong culture. Pat has said again and again he is bringing back a Grovian culture. I see that as overcompensation for a totally ill positioned company with a culture that has failed to identify the pivot in the industry 10 years ago and is now a decade behind in transformation and thinks Grovian Back is the Future.

GF is a mess of a cultural, got IBM mixed with Charter, mixed with AMD and then the last few years of GF and multiple CEOs.

Good luck integrating that miss mash with the Grovian Pat one.

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