Thread regarding Juniper Networks Inc. layoffs

Exam Fraud and Tons of Promotions Recently

JTAC/CFTS:

Many of you were just recently promoted. Does this resonate with you?

  1. 1 Exam Fraud. Exam fraud includes any action or attempt by an individual or group of individuals to influence the testing process through cheating, collusion, and/or copying exam questions. This may occur prior to taking a test, during a test, or after a test has been taken. You acknowledge and agree that Juniper Networks or its designated agents have the right to research exam results by statistical analyses and other methods to monitor for evidence of exam fraud. If such analysis reveals evidence of exam fraud, Juniper Networks reserves the right to investigate further and to take appropriate remedial action such as (but not limited to) revoking certification as stipulated in Section 7.3, requiring candidates to retake an exam under controlled conditions, and/or requiring candidates to provide evidence that they personally took an exam.

https://www.juniper.net/content/dam/www/assets/training/us/en/jncp-candidate-agreementx.pdf

Personally, I am sick of seeing hard-working engineers passed over because they refuse to violate this simple rule. There's a metric guide that you must meet specific criteria in order to be promoted. JNCIE and other certs are one of them. JNCIE is the ONLY thing that held people back from being promoted this round.

Integrity is not lost on many of us but it's lost on you should this resonate. Will you and can you live with that? If the exam is too hard that you need to cheat and use dumps to use as a study method (however you convince yourself at the end of the day that it's ok to use is beyond me), you do not belong at Juniper. You're taking a promotion away from someone who legitimately tried and failed the JNICE three, four, however many times when you can pass it in one or two. MOST of all, you're taking the trust away from customers that call you experts. You're not an expert, maybe in cheating and lying but you are not a true expert.

I'd wager only a handful of people can pass these types of exams on the first try without violating 7.1. When money and promotions are more meaningful to you than integrity, I am truly scared for this world. What's sick and sad is that I know this is coming from upper management too. The truth always comes back to haunt you. I will get a lot of hate for this because it seems "everyone" cheats. It's time to end this. Those that haven't are absolutely the obvious go-to people. You dont want to learn, you care about money. Titles and tiaras. Sad.

If these questions are too hard, the people who write these exams need to understand that so better training material (lol...) can be put our OR different exam questions need to be created.

Unbelievable. I hope you're happy with yourselves for taking a promotion away from those who truly are trying without using dumps or collaborating as such.

Scorched earth, here I come.

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And the Certs do not really prepare you for the kinds of questions that you get most often on Tech Support calls or for Sales Efforts. The curriculum is agnostic as to the different models and their underpinnings.

The written exams should be primarily based on the material. The questions do not need to be direct-lifts from the material, but things that can be readily deduced from the material. Right now it seems like they have a tendency go grab obscure items that are often not relevant to your real work hands-on experience.

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I failed one of them 6 times. It's frustrating when you see someone pass on the first time.

Thank you for blowing the whistle on this. This needed to happen years ago.

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Not to mention it has to be paid out of pocket after so many failed attempts. Yeesh.

Cheating probably wouldn't happen if employees could take the exams as many times as they wanted without having to pay out of pocket. SEs have this benefit. Not all areas do. TAC does not. This is messed up.

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