Thread regarding Saudi Aramco layoffs

Are people leaving here en masse?

How many people have left voluntarily since the beginning of the year? In a very short period of time, several of my colleagues have quit. People have left before, but this now seems like a very worrying trend to me. The best people are leaving. No company with a perspective would allow that.

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Post ID: @OP+1b7BBNwe

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HR is full of Expats today. I wonder why so many are there right before school ends? Puzzling

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Post ID: @eivd+1b7BBNwe

If you don’t need expats why are you blanketing Houston with job ads? Do your own Powerpoints and produce your own papers and plans.

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Post ID: @bmtq+1b7BBNwe

Now? I don't think so, it's more related to several factors but commonly:

  • Family leaves because kids grown to go to boarding school and you don't want to split the family then after few months you leave as well.
  • You have teenage daughters and want a change in their environment.
  • Have more than 10 years in the company and full severance is yours now, so quit is an option if you want leave.
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Post ID: @9ols+1b7BBNwe

“If we don’t need you, we just don’t...”

You’ll always need us, you’re far too stupid to survive on your own.

Trouble is, your money is no longer worth the mental trauma of dealing with you p1gs.

Good luck, you’ll soon be back living in tents, sh-----g camels.....

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Post ID: @7car+1b7BBNwe

Ha Ha, so says an HV Saudi…until this divide is breached and King Abdullah done the best in trying to heal that breach then fairness will not be achieved in KSA.

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Post ID: @6vdr+1b7BBNwe

I think Low Voltage (LV) Saudis are worst human being than their High Voltage(HV) version. In my group 4/6 are LV and believe me they are the worst heartless people I have ever come across. you see their real face when they get a little power or control. They are the biggest liars, cheaters and manipulators. Now I feel that HV are giving them the treatment they deserve.

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Post ID: @6ptk+1b7BBNwe

US Expats leaving en masse, who will notice? The only US expats left will be those that kiss 💋 ji-z.

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Post ID: @6tkb+1b7BBNwe

That's a really good point about the "low voltage" Saudis. I have encountered a number of bright, hard working locals who just gave up because they realized the game is rigged. Aramco leadership wants to get rid of Expats, and yet they sustain the kind of unfair environment that makes sure the company will always need Expats. No way a local will do complex technical work with tight deadlines and a boss breathing down his/her neck when all it will bring is an "E" and a "Next Year" promotion.

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Post ID: @3aih+1b7BBNwe

Most expat jobs are dead end jobs and skills stagnate due to the lack of opportunity to use existing skills due to “work priorities”. The money does compensate to some extent but it’s demotivating when high voltage Saudis get the S merit increases due to resource support and opportunities whilst low voltage Saudis and expats get no opportunities, or opportunities with no resource support and unrealistic “stretch goals”. The entire system is rigged so that only the connected few have careers and the remainder are mere worker drones supporting the chosen few. Organizationally, this will of course end in disaster which is why the IPO was important to start selling off an organization in decline. It cannot be reformed internally and really needs a more diverse multinational management to establish and implement fairness. Without fairness, the decline will continue. It’s really sad.

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Post ID: @3zfa+1b7BBNwe

This is the common time of year for expats to leave and this year’s group is definitely larger than normal. If I had to guess it’s ~ 3 times bigger than normal. There’s a LOT of people thinking about leaving but talk is cheap until you put in your notice. RT refinery is trying to counter offer some of the people who put in their notice to get them to stay.

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Post ID: @3kbf+1b7BBNwe

In my GM group, approximately 1/3 of the non-supervisory expats were laid off. Over the next year, another 1/3 resigned, including me. The 1/3 that remain consist of two poor guys from a Countries that are falling apart, a guy who will be resigning shortly, a guy that is due to retire in a few months, a guy with no real skills that would let him get a job elsewhere, a guy with zero self respect who does whatever management says, and a crafty political hack who gets E+ or S every review. From what I hear, dysfunction is at an all time high. Go Aramco!

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Post ID: @1ivi+1b7BBNwe

There’s been an exodus since the start of the year with many expats leaving. It’s said 54 quit after the missile attack on dhahran, another 90+ quit after the SAIP payment hit their bank and many more will no doubt leave before the year is out.

The majority appear to have had enough of the ineptitude of “management” and the total fabrications and BS they pedal.

Can’t blame them really, talk about a company in crisis lurching from f-up to f-up. It seems the truth about the appalling methods and practices has finally been exposed to the world post IPO debacle.

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Post ID: @1dgy+1b7BBNwe

If we don’t need you, we just don’t. Leave now before you become the subject of more abuse, which we will gladly administer in the most humiliating of ways. Grade Code cuts and demotions will come next to an organization dear to your lazy hearts.

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