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May 2021 layoffs - dates/departments?

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UHG only has ever offered a 14 day notice. They don't do the layoffs large enough to be required to do the 60 day notice.

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Post ID: @atdf+1aKRdFrd

Your fungible -easily replaceable. They do nt care that they dont care. It's who they were. The corporations are to hamster wheel their debt and tax slaves into leaving and they jump aboard another lateral move while reading company propaganda, missionary statements, and other PR garbage-think MSM

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Post ID: @9ywv+1aKRdFrd

americans have zero employment rights. It was intentional. Employment at will-whim doctrine-only in the us empire. Your "job" is to make the corporation lots and lots of $ and they give you a few scraps left over for you to make ends meet.

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Post ID: @3cyy+1aKRdFrd

Yeah, I think some places with a larger reduction in mind will do smaller numbers every month, while others do larger numbers once a quarter. It's the total over a rolling 90-day average that counts for WARN. So whenever a company is looking to make any reduction, they basically look at the last 90 and project into the next 90 to make sure they will remain "under" for the period. (Or they go ahead and make the appropriate notifications, if the situation is such that they must go over)

Businesses will obviously do exactly what the law will allow. That's just business. It's why, for instance, there are so many credit card companies based in Wilmington, Delaware... a smart business will do whatever it can to succeed.

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Post ID: @1ibs+1aKRdFrd

I see, so there are layoffs every month or so to avoid WARN? That don't sound right. You would think WARN would have a concern with the amount of employees who were laid off yearly. Some sort of red flag or something.

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Post ID: @1egz+1aKRdFrd

Yeah, the requirements for reporting are very specific. It doesn't necessarily have to be under 50 to be an exception. It could be up to 499 as long as it isn't more than 33% of a single site.
There are also several other exceptions, like... if the company is in trouble and actively seeking capital or new business and a notice of a pending mass layoff may hurt those efforts. Same for natural disasters and some other unforeseen business circumstances. (Interestingly enough, so far COVID-19 is not an allowable exception and there are several lawsuits under way at other companies... so who knows whether that will change.)

Companies with intelligent leadership always have their legal teams carefully go over each RIF to make sure they remain under the numbers for having to report, even through a rolling 90-day window if they're like some other companies who tend to ride just under the limit of the requirements.
Just google WARN act to find all the info on dol.gov

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Post ID: @1eyx+1aKRdFrd

UHG and it’s subs avoid the WARN Act by eliminating less than 50 employees at a time apparently. I don’t know anyone that was given 60 days notice.

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Post ID: @1bot+1aKRdFrd

Why do people come here to get information about layoffs? I thought companies were required to give advance notice according to the WARN ACT? You're supposed to be warned of any layoffs before they happen.

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