Thread regarding IBM layoffs

why do boomers blame wrong people

I've noticed here that boomers always blame others like young people, immigrants, 3rd world countries etc. but they're being laid off by other boomers in powerful positions.

Almost all of the execs are boomers including the ceo who decides to fire you or lay you off and pay pennies to everyone.

Stop blaming young people,immigrants and other things, it's your generation people who are screwing you.

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Post ID: @OP+1a8yHHdP

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When you say 'boomers' you mean someone born 1946 to 1964. By age, I just scrape by as a 'boomer'. In many ways, 'boomers' are the backbone of the company. In our day job, we also nurture, educate and project younger talent. Continuity (esp: from a customer perspective) is critical in building a brand, gaining customer trust and getting buy-in from employees.

The 'boomers' on this site aren't just frustrated they have been let go, but they are sad to see a once-great company succumb to trivial RA's. There once was a sense of pride in supporting IBM, but now in turn, it has let them down.

Typically, 'boomers' don't blame young people, immigrants, or people from 3rd world countries. In fact, we want to encourage you to go on to do even better things. It's when we see the principles of the company foundations torn up and thrown away that we can't stay silent.

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Post ID: @iufg+1a8yHHdP

"...your typical 50/60 year old..."

More like 60/70... Boomers were born 1946-1964. Or are 57 - 75 years old.

As a "Boomer" born in 62... I can say us late boomers did not get all the juicy good deals the early Boomers got... but we did get to avoid being drafted into 'Nam. So I feel no allegiance to the Boomer label, and most certainly resent being lumped in that group.

The deals changed as I was growing up / moving up in the work world. At every turn the good deals the early Boomers got... were rescinded just as it was "my turn"... then the world turns around and starts give those thing to the younger generations... leaving most of us late boomers screwed.

It's so obvious, even some of the parents of my friends that are still alive noticed it in their children that were boomers and which ones got which deals.

One mother I knew called it something like "The Lost Generation" (but that can't be it, because that's WW1)... that her kids born between 62 and 64 fell inbetween on the good deals.

I call it "being in divot"... too young to have caught the rise of mainframes... so was always second cookie to folks 10+ years older... to old to have been part of the rise of distributed, Google, etc.

The divot being the loss of earnings if one were to graph it by year of birth due to trends.

The boomers that got the good deals were part of the population bulge.

Basically us late Boomers grew up expecting the deals the Early Boomers got... then the rules changed as we were paying the dues for it.

This is why late boomers will flame you for suggesting things like No-Collar, Student Debt Forgiveness, etc. Basically anything that they can't avail to that gives benefits for no effort. Because as a group, we've repeatedly paid dues... and had the membership withheld.

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Post ID: @5lqt+1a8yHHdP

I'm a GenXer and think I can see this clearly having had 2 decades of boomers above and preceding me. This does seem to be a common behavioural pattern from the boomers. Not sure why, but I think they, as a post World War II generation, had war time parents or at least were sufficiently influenced by WW2 to follow that need for an opposing side mentality. Couple that with a condescending mentality from your typical 50/60 year old, and I think that explains 90% of the issue.

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Post ID: @5vxw+1a8yHHdP

Yes we did have racism
It’s was called affirmative action
And hiring quotas for minorities.
How we soon forget about racism like that.
Thanks for the reminder

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Post ID: @5zwu+1a8yHHdP

“..we never had racism before, now all the sudden that's all we hear...”
No you boomer, you did. It’s just that you think/thought it was ok.

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Post ID: @2gyq+1a8yHHdP

I don't blame all those people. I pity them. Because IBM makes them think they can build a career based on zero knowledge. Lay off an experienced tech expert and replace with a brand-new high school graduate, and IBM expects the newbie to be as productive as the former employee. No one wins.

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Post ID: @1nkv+1a8yHHdP

Kid, you just work for the wrong company. It was once GREAT, but is now a shadow of its former self.

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Post ID: @1pyd+1a8yHHdP

Please don’t bundle boomers in one cookie cutter. Some of us appreciate what we had and how we started blah blah; great respect etc. and some of us are still moving forward and onward and embracing and being open to the diversity in workforce. We’re not all going to bore you with “walked to school uphill both ways” talk. Ha.

Hate the label boomer as much as maybe millennials hate their labels

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Post ID: @1pbu+1a8yHHdP

People who are wrong should be blamed.

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Post ID: @ngs+1a8yHHdP

What can I tell ya, Kid. We didn't start the fire. It was always burning since the world's been turning. This boomer first heard that on a flat vinyl disk with one long helictical grove on one side and another one on the other.

My body aches more than it used to and I never made it to the point where I get to pay other people pennies. (Worse yet, I live in a country that got rid of pennies some time ago. I never made it to the point where I get to pay other people nickels.) But, unlike you, I'm a short timer and I'm a late boomer. A lot of us aren't that much into blaming you young'uns. Who never paid your dues. And expect that the world owes you a living. Etc. Etc.

No one is blaming you, kid. You're fine; we're fine. Even though you obviously seem to have issues, we are all in this together.

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Post ID: @izm+1a8yHHdP

Please get back to work. I need you working not posting so you can fund my pension.

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Post ID: @yvd+1a8yHHdP

Boomers invented outsourcing and workforce greening as ways to save a buck. It’s hilarious to listen to them complain about it when they’re a victim of what they created.

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Post ID: @tlg+1a8yHHdP

I think you mean gen y or younger? Gen X is 41-56 now and already being targeted by IBM already.

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Post ID: @lhl+1a8yHHdP

Boomers worked hard, built this company, and were well rewarded. Current workforce wants the same rewards without the hard work. When they don’t get it they play the race card. This is not an IBM or race problem but more a gen x issue.

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Post ID: @qny+1a8yHHdP

You're

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Post ID: @jhv+1a8yHHdP

Your not wrong. My experience is it’s typically stodgy old white guy checking the box to outsource and offshore half the American workforce.

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Post ID: @xek+1a8yHHdP

Racism you have in IBM, Smyrna, GA.

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Post ID: @fhn+1a8yHHdP

and young people are always screaming racism
we never had racism before, now all the sudden that's all we hear
please tell me you're F'n kidding me with the racism BS kids

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Post ID: @uhk+1a8yHHdP

I don’t blame them (or you).

I pity them (and you).

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