Thread regarding ADP layoffs

2021 Predictions

As the new year draws closer, I have a few predictions for the new year for ADP. I base these on a number of factors but time will tell how they play out.

1) As ADP has already filed for more/continuing layoffs, more hardships will emerge and the last remaining employees with more than 5 years at ADP will be targeted. Especially for any remaining employees with a pension. Higher positions (SVP's, etc.) will be eliminated for the same reason they targeted the best employees that were already eliminated - salary and compensation reduction in favor of cheap inexperienced labor.

2) As the coronavirus continues to erode the business landscape, so will it affect ADP and it's business as it has done through this year. The difference is it is becoming more apparent that many many businesses will never recover and more are failing by the day. This will continue to hurt ADP's cash flow and market position.

3) The growing negative outlook as the markets have hit an all time high will almost certainly head bearish under a new administration. The mass tax increases coming will hurt client, employees, businesses and spiral even more problems for ADP.

4) Failing antiquated product offerings will finally be exposed. Competitors like Workday are far superior to ADP's products and ADP has coasted on it's name for a long time but the markets are realizing that the costs to do business is too high and the customer service has gone downhill completely. Clients are very upset and complaining daily with each and every payroll.

5) The mass work from home forced by COVID-19 has dramatically hurt productivity at ADP and little is getting done effectively, given that significant knowledge has left the company, and the new employees are struggling and leaving because of it. ADP will force mass return to super-centers as they have already sunk a huge cost outlay into those buildings and they want to scrutinize what people are doing.

6) Lastly, ADP stock may well fall to half the level it is currently trading at for all of the reasons above. However, perhaps the biggest is the continued poor leadership and decision making exhibited by the executive team which will likely erode into the stock price.

Only time will tell if these are all 100% true or only partially true. One thing for certain, is ADP has turned into a terrible environment that does not value employees and all management knives are out ready at all times to stab you in the back to save their own lack of skills and their position. Don't believe me - take a hard look around and see how many long time very good employees aren't there any more that were just 1 or 2 to 3 years ago. More layoffs are coming - that is certain as they have been filed for. Best of luck all. We need it.

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Post ID: @OP+18ytaMw9

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Op is out of touch and this is simply his wish list.

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Post ID: @bdib+18ytaMw9

Agree with the OP's analysis. Well thought out and well presented.

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Post ID: @bnvn+18ytaMw9

@arrm+18ytaMw9 , The OP's analysis seems pretty fair if you ask me and even said they were his/her predictions and time would tell. If you can't provide any countered position and all you do is call it c-ap shows your tendency towards having temper-tantrums and low IQ.

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Post ID: @bsvf+18ytaMw9

Your analysis is c-ap, myopic and stinks of bias.

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Post ID: @arrm+18ytaMw9

Whatever you think does not matter. ADP has sunk costs in the supercenters in multi-year pre-signed leases. They are saving some money now but will save even more when they get everyone back into those supercenters and "Supervise" those employees that are "Working" from home. Right now the productivity levels are way down and justifying VP and SVP positions is hard due to everyone not in the office. ADP is committed to the supercenters and eliminating work from home as soon as it appears safe. This has been a very long planned approach and the overtime can be managed and ensured people are not slacking off like currently is happening once people are all back in the supercenters. It also give the management execs some purpose for existing if people are back in a office so they can parade around and say "do what I say or you are out".

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Post ID: @7xjf+18ytaMw9

The employees are really suffering. They are literally being bullied. Their workload has increased due to ADP laying people off to 'save' money and the employees are being bullied to recording their overtime. ADP is actually saving millions of dollars by employees working from home. The cost of running the buildings is almost zero. Zero electricity cost, zero janitorial cost, zero cafeteria cost, zero toilet paper cost, zero copier paper cost, zero internet cost and you can probably add to this cost saving list. I used zero because compared to what they were paying before it is very near zero.

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Post ID: @7zhz+18ytaMw9

One other note which has not been mentioned much (if at all) recently - the Fed's decision to drop back to near 0% rates is once again wreaking havoc on the balance sheet. ADP for decades relied on a steady and fairly high interest rate for a fair chunk of its revenue. That revenue has all but disappeared over the last 10 years, and it isn't forecast to return anytime soon.

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