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Terminated Pension Lump Sum

From the Involuntary Severance & Post-Employment Support slide:
“Retirement Benefits
A one-time terminated vested ExxonMobil Pension Plan lump sum payout is available within 3 months after separation.

So if you get cut and are vested (more than 5 years) lets get an estimate:

From the main page. HR>Benefits & Policies>Retirement>-ExxonMobil Benefits Service Center>Visit Site

Pension Plans>Pension Benefit Estimate
Stop Work Date = 02/01/2021
Begin receiving checks =03/2021
Calculate
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Change form of payment to Lump

Look at that number. You think they’ll send us a check for that amount or short us?

Read this, do the spreadsheet, be ready.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/baldwin/2019/10/20/how-much-is-ge-shortchanging-pensioners-taking-lump-sums-use-our-calculator/amp/

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IRS publication 575 is your friend for questions related to pension to IRA rollover

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Post ID: @1aex+180xcyJR

If Lump Sum is rolled into an Individual standard IRA - there should be no Tax deduction or other penalty after age 60.

Regarding the article - surely GE was diddling employees on Lump Sum offering.
My take on EM's Lump Sum (under extremely low interest criteria in 4Q2020),
is that it is fairly equivalent to the extended pension amount over the years.

May the toils of nature not allow me to 'live' past 80, please.

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Post ID: @hhu+180xcyJR

How does the 5% discount between 60 and 55 apply? When calculating a lump sum for someone below 55...is it still 5% per year discount?

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Post ID: @lko+180xcyJR

Important caveat on the Forbes Calculator:

From digging into the sheet, it looks like they are assuming the pension amount is adjusted for inflation every year. My understanding is that it does not. To fix this, go down to cells D204-D270 and change the formula to 12*B18

In my case, this cut the calculated value by 80%

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Post ID: @lzf+180xcyJR

You do not have to be 55 to get the lump sum. The policy was changed a few years back and there's an addendum in the back of the policy document. I believe there is another revision for this upcoming purge that changes the vesting from 15 years to 5 years.

I left in July with 20 years of experience and 45 years of age. Benefits Admin sent me some documentation after my separation to outline the options, so it was fairly easy to get the paperwork sent off. Had to notarize a few pages. I was given a lump sum option and took it. Taxes were applied at 20%. My check came right at three months after leaving.

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Post ID: @rhl+180xcyJR

You do not have to be 55 if part of the involuntary program. The FAQs clearly say you have the option to receive a lump sum option if vested. Vested = 5 years irregardless of age.

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Post ID: @syh+180xcyJR

No u actually get the lump sum if you are 55 You will just have to pay 30% tax but part of it can be gotten when you file your tax returns.

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Post ID: @vdz+180xcyJR

How do you access this after you leave? ExxonMobilFamily site?

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Post ID: @pws+180xcyJR

Terminees will get the chance to lump sum their pension within 3 months even if they are not 55 nor have 15 years. They can roll over to an IRA without taxes being withheld. This is a special window, allowing non-retirees the benefit they don’t normally have.

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Post ID: @qyz+180xcyJR

You only get a lump sum if you are eligible. 55.

If you are not, you have to wait to 65.

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Post ID: @sty+180xcyJR

I believe the company holds 20% of your lump sum for taxes.

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