I thought all PIPs started on Aug 1 and ended on October 31. But i see a few posts indicating they already passed PIP. How is that possible if the PIP hasn’t ended?
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@4mgo+17yD3XqQ I feel you and know exactly how you feel. I know of at least 2 others that passed. I also know of at least 2 that were given indications it wasn’t going well or gave up and left in September so the numbers are probably pretty low.
For comparison our group was ~125. 11 in NSI. 8 took the PIL. 3 of us are here still. The 3 of us had never been below middle.
I wanted to follow-up to this posting. I officially passed the PIP today. So, we now know it is possible to do it, but as to what % are allowed to get past it, my guess is it’s pretty low. I also am not naive about this. I’m sure it will forever be a stain on my EM career, and I’ll probably be targeted for layoffs or future PIPs, since they can then immediately let me go if I get PIP again. It’s also been a mentally taxing experience. Anyway, bought some time, so will continue looking for something new. Just thought everyone should know passing the PIP is possible, although probably quite difficult to do so (been a living he** the past 3 months).
@1frr+17yD3XqQ - You are wrong. 2020 was a huge change. In the prior ranking system, there was no requirement to place anyone in the bottom 10%. 10 RGP or less required a PIP. A minimum of 15% of the overall rank list had to be in the bottom quintile (0-19 RGP). Managers almost always placed all employees in that quintile between 11-19 RGP, which meant a PIP was not required. In rare cases, an employee would be assigned an RGP below 11 when they were assessed to be not providing a valuable contribution. Been doing ranking for 35 years and want to set the record straight.
I have heard of a few people who did the outlined requirements of the PIP and the were told “They did It make the extra effort to go above and beyond”. If your management does not want you too succeed you will not. I suspect many PIPed people will be laid off anyway in round 2
This is simply not true. My coworker was PIP'd and did everything he was told to do. His manager pulled him aside a week earlier and said that unfortunately, he would be let go because the manager couldn't convince HR that my coworker performed "above and beyond" his duties.
My coworker did all that he could and was waiting on others... literally a no-win situation.
Perhaps all the trolls on this board over reacted...lmao a bunch of know-it-all’s. I don’t have the time to collect all of the dozens (hundreds?) of declarations that there was ZERO percent chance that you can pass the PIP.
Let me let you in on a well known secret. Every single year before the new performance system, 10% (not 8) were up for MLRP. As a supervisor, you had to get an exception for each and every person in the bottom 10% to skip the MLRP. Some were approved, others weren’t. In downturns, the approval for MLRP exceptions is more heavily scrutinized and less likely to be approved.
The ability to pass the PIP is completely up to the employee and their supervisor. Is the employee motivated and capable, and is the supervisor reasonable and open minded. There is no requirement how many pass/don’t pass the PIP. Saying otherwise is really just a conspiracy theory.
Lol. PIP'd people passed? You're going to be gone in the 1st wave of layoffs or next years pds. Good luck to you with a target on your back! You're f—ed
I’ve recoded every conversation with my supervisor and now when I get asked to see them I continue to record. I have no trust but I was told last week I passed verbally and paperwork would be done by end of month. So @kci+17yD3XqQ and the poster below are correct
I was PIP’d, so can comment on this. It depends on when you officially accepted and signed the PIP/PIL (remember, there was a week given to decide from whenever NSI was communicated). I think a lot of people will be soon. I’ve been told I passed, but the official documentation is done at the 3 month mark. As was stated by others, there shouldn’t be any surprise. Of course, let’s wait until it’s fully official before celebrating. And who knows what will happen after official layoffs are announced in the coming weeks. Good luck everyone. Every person for themselves, no one is safe.
PIP date starts day you are let known. Not everyone started pip on last day of July.
not true for my coworker. His official end date was last week. He was pipped a few weeks earlier. Not sure why that was the case
Does it suppose you that xom announced to the public today that layoffs are coming? A week before the decisions are made right?
Mine I think officially started the week of July 27th although we talked about things the week before also. I think all official decisions are made next week. Some supervisors have been kind enough through the process to let employees know where they stand. Folks are assuming based on what supervisors told them this week or through the last month that they would pass. Could we be surprised next week? It’s possible but a really bad reflection on those managers since I guess that would be a straightforward lie. You should communicate with your manager so there are no surprises next week.
CYA for backlash over bad ethics?
They are probably not true.