Thread regarding Allscripts layoffs

Where is the human-ness in this HR Dept?

The people who work here aren’t just lines and salary grades on an excel sheet. I understand getting calloused due to the numerous layoffs but damn guys, the culture starts with you all.

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I don't know how truthey it was, but one of my co-workers at the time told me that the people brought in for his groups layoffs came from outside of McKesson. He described them as mercenaries because they stood close to him to intimidate him into signing the paperwork without reading any of it. It wouldn't surprise me if there's actually a company that does this full time, because it takes a certain kind of ay hole to threaten/intimidate people in such an emotionally sensitive time.

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Post ID: @cwoi+17s1dWJu

The term "human resources" says it all. The humans (resources) are merely materials required by the corporation to create the product (software). Just like iron ore, wood are "resources" needed by other types of companies to create their products .

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Post ID: @7dre+17s1dWJu

Yo! Been doing it for years now... Next round will be after the MDRX investor presentation, sometime in November, with an effective date of early December, so people have one full month of healthcare benefits. So compassionate!

Leave!

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Post ID: @6gqe+17s1dWJu

I’ve heard senior leadership at allscripts say they are doing employees a favor by laying off after thanksgiving so that the people who were laid off have an opportunity to return any holiday gifts they purchased during Black Friday before Christmas ...let that one sink in

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Post ID: @5avk+17s1dWJu

In my 40 years in the corporate world one of the first things I learned was HR has nothing to do with human anything, and the r can’t possibly stand for anything to do with resources. They have nothing to do with helping employees! I stayed as far as I could from them. Glad to be gone from Allscripts almost 3 years now!

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Post ID: @5cbg+17s1dWJu

As a former McKesson employee of 20 plus years who did not come to Allscripts via the EIS purchase, I don't recall them ever having layoffs in the November/December timeframe. Also, when they did have to perform a Reduction in Force, there was usually a 12 to 18 month gap between each reduction. I have been with Allscripts for a year and there have been 4 that I know of and I think possibly one other one that I heard a rumor about. I don't doubt COVID is a factor but it is not "The" factor based on the Financial Calls I have attended. Based on the Q2 call, it was stated that Allscripts had $10 mllion set aside for Severance packages - $5 millon for Q3 and $5 millon for Q4. So yes, I believe there will be one more round before the year is over with. With that said, I also believed that those impacted with the Salary reductions would not get reimbursed for the lost wages but they are this month.

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Post ID: @5lwq+17s1dWJu

"Layoffs over now?"
No way in h e l l , unfortunately.
Allscripts has layed off employees very close to Thanksgiving and Christmas. I'm pretty sure that McKesson did a similar thing when they still owned the products purchased by AS.

It's probably THE cruelest and heartless thing I've ever experienced while working for a corporation. Keep that experience in mind: we are NOTHING to the corporations that employ us. And that applies to all of them, particularly those making use of quality software developers.

Anxiety around the upcoming lay offs have already ruined the holidays for me.

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Post ID: @4kcw+17s1dWJu

layoffs over now?

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Post ID: @4rez+17s1dWJu

Absolutely not blaming HR for the layoffs - I’m blaming them for their lack of humanity with how they interact with the staff regularly.

And a pretentious brown hole? Really? Wow. Definitely don’t work for HR, just seen the dirty work for the better half of a decade and it’s slid way off.

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Post ID: @3nuu+17s1dWJu

With the exception of the boarding process, I found dealing HR to be lame at best. Very similar experience in dealing with Allscripts Finance people also. Yes, HR implements mandates from PB and RP, but they do it in the worst way possible.

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Post ID: @3pvq+17s1dWJu

Blaming HR for a layoff is ridiculous and unfair. HR just implements the orders from higher up. That's their job. The board of directors and executrons (ex PB, LK) are the ones to blame.

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Post ID: @1ljl+17s1dWJu

No need to be a pretentious brown hole. You can make your point without the judgement. Your post actually reads like YOU work for HR.

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Post ID: @1xcc+17s1dWJu

Anyone who thinks that any HR department at any company is there for the employees really needs to learn how the world works. HR departments are the enforcement arm of the Lawyers who run everything - any ancillary benefits like... benefits are only a side-effect of legal compliance. Most of them are "pretty faces" from a Humanities, Communications, PoliSci, or Marketing background - but without the imagination or creativity.

Allscripts specifically?

You are nothing but a line and salary grade on an Excel sheet.

Figuring out what someone actually does or the impact it will have on productivity/creation to remove them is just about the last thing they consider when firing people - and it shows. How many of us are wearing twenty hats and performing functions that would normally be outside of our BU all the time because they eliminated vital people and we got "volunteered" to do weird things? They rotate lower/middle management and personnel around so much and reshuffle the deck every six to nine months and never realize they've completely destroyed most of the productivity. The idea that "culture" starts with HR (or that any of the propaganda HR puts out is real) is one of the dumbest things I've heard on this site and this site is full of dumb.

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