Are you planning on staying until retirement or are you just hoping to keep the job a while longer until you find something else or get layed off?
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When were the ballots sent out? Or were emotionally charged people the ones that voted? I’d guess yes.
This is an easy one, and the answer is NO. Voted worst company in the US for a reason.
Convinced yourself, ey?
UP is not like any business. Ask anyone that has left. We laugh at UP.
Yep. That’s how it works in any business.
You can plan on staying until you are of retirement age but Lance and the boys will have a say about that
Yes here we are with UP ranked the worst company to work for in America lol. Hopefully their current employees live forever because they’ll never be able to recruit any new ones. 😆
CN, CP and CSX are all alive and kicking. So will UP. Hence, it’s a viable company. No business model in railroading has lasted forever. And here we are. Yes, changes will be made again. And again. So what?
@ikm it’s not viable unless you’re a stockholder or at the top cashing in on stocks and getting bonuses. Even the man that started this whole psr scheme said it wasn’t after 2-3 years and then you’d have to do something else (probably why he left any of the companies he ran before the $hit really hit the fan and those companies plowed into the ground) CSX just got a bit lucky and he didn’t fulfill his contract. Even hatchet man himself stated that when he was hired. Long term this isn’t a viable business plan at all, it’s a smash and grab plan to get as much as possible while trying to not make a noticeable enough amount of damage to cause the government to step in and attempt to correct the mess that psr causes, so that certain people can cash out as much as possible and then bail when the carcass starts to show signs of decay. Then comes the apology tour from the next poor b@$+@rd that gets brought in to fix the massive holes left in the ship. Just wait the signs are starting to show up now and by the end of this quarter/beginning of next quarter don’t be shocked if you start seeing more upper management start jumping ship or dumping stock.
Obviously an exaggeration or else there would be zero managers. But I have known of management classes where in a few years 100% of everyone had quit. And yes they aren’t hiring conductors now but the last time they were in large numbers they had to offer bonuses. Half the jobs UP posts online nowadays are for lawyers to bulk up their legal team. They aren’t hiring now but one day they’ll need to and good luck with that
Sorry, autocorrect got me at the end of the last post. Should have said OMT’s have basically no time for a life outside of work.
There are no bonuses for new conductors. If fact, there is almost no hiring being done. HR technical training has went from approximately 140 instructors in 2014 to about 30 now. Most of there classes are rules and a few other miscellaneous things. The OMT classes aren’t 100 percent turnover, but many do leave in the first three years. They leave mostly due to the hours required as they basically have. I time for a life outside of work. Not many young, college educated people want this lifestyle.
No
100% turnover in management classes. Nobody coming out of college wants to work there anymore. They have to offer bonuses to just get conductors. Company is a joke.
I probably would have still taken the job. I’ve had quite a few good years there. I’m not happy there now and might move on. But I’ve been through this before with two other companies. So it wasn’t totally a surprise. At this point I’m just going through the motions, doing a good job. But not getting excited when they say I have to do better. The managers are the ones worried. I can go somewhere else and do as good fairly easy. But these young managers making 90k should probably be banking most of their money.
Yes, I would. UP was fantastic. I was very proud to work there. Loved every minute of it. Best group of railroaders I've ever had the privilege of working with. Sure, I was disappointed when I was walked out of UPC, and I'm absolutely shocked that UP is self-destructing. But it was worth it.
I’m a craft employee(locomotive). There’s a lot I don’t like really get now, but to say UP isn’t viable is cray cray.
It makes no sense long term. Never change oil or filters. Never replace tires. Never repair anything that breaks. Sell off parts, tools, and equipment for pennies on the dollar. Now apply that to everything that you use or own. Yea, that really sounds viable long term.
I see UP still has the HR team monitoring this website for negative threads
It is a viable way to run a company. It’s a very viable company. To suggest otherwise would be your emotion over reality.
Nope. Good luck finding people willing to put up with that mess longer than 6 months.
It’s not viable to run a company. That doesn’t matter. It’s a pump and dump cash grab .
who wants to know?
I can say with very little doubt no one would have believed you if you said this company could turn into the raging $hitshow that it has become. Even those that have managed to make it to retirement and enjoyed quite a few years of drawing RRB benefits are shocked the current leadership has decide this is a viable way to run a company, and never in their wildest dreams thought it would have get this bad (and they saw what they thought were the hard times). As far as answering the what will you do next part of your question, I don’t think anyone is going to give management a straight answer to that at this point they’d rather just let it be a surprise.