What are my Union Rights to challenge this. The union told me they would always protect me from Boeing management.
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For SPEEA, you challenge it within 30 days after receiving the retention, not after the fact of the layoff notice. for Prof, it goes by the Retention, for Tech, it goes by the level. And then within the same retention group, that's where management comes into play, they line up all the people within the same retention group. If you are R2, as long as there are more than 5% of the R3 left, no matter how much the manager hates you, you can't be let go before the R3 is less than 5% of the total population within the same skill. If you are a R2, you get the notice while there are R3 left, that's when Union comes to play.
For IAM, I think it's based on seniority (when did you come in), and I think there are adjustment too (let say if you become a manager for a while, you left IAM and work for other group then come back, layoff then come back, etc). I don't think you can challenge that too since it's a cold-hard date, you are either hired in before, or after that date, nothing in between. However, if the manager really loves you, and knowing you likely get layoff, the manager can temporarily assign you to a safer skills. Look at the IAM skill code, some skill layoff any one came after 2011, and some skill retain any one hired in before 2020 (yes, early this year). If your manager really wants to keep you, then s/he can reassign you to that safe skill set, and get you back after all the dust settles. But if it's the other way around (you should not be layoff if you are in your original skill, but got layoff after the reassignment), then that's when the Union comes in and challenge the management.
In both cases, if there's no Union, you likely don't know about those numbers. managers can still manipulate numbers, but it's harder to do that in front a bunch of lawyers than do it in front of an individual workers.
When a manager threw a worker under the bus, the Union maybe not able to save you, but the manager also can't get away (takes 10 years for the California SPEEA case, employee weren't save, but Boeing can't just walk away), so the manager will need to think twice before they throw you under the bus. If there's no Union, the manager can just throw you under the bus, turn away and done. Yes, in both cases, you still died, but for the first case, the manager gotta think first, where for the second case, it's all about his mood.
You challenge within the 30 days of the retention, not after the fact of the layoff notice
I don't think you can legally challenge a layoff. If you were terminated for bad performance it would be different. But budget cuts, and pandemic make it somewhat unavoidable. Go to the SPEEA Website, they should have your options posted.
Paid my last "association fee" one year ago. What a bunch of grifters. SPEEA sent me a letter saying they were going to get me fired for not paying my dues, even though I had retired. So glad to be out of that S**thole place.
Unions are a business just like any other. They need management and play good cop bad cop. Once you are in all they care about is your dues... not you.
It goes by seniority and the “skill set” 10% retained good ol boy Knee pad network. Nothing the union can do. Sorry bud.
On August 1st start striking by staying home and filing for unemployment. Make Boeing pay by not coming in. Donate what you can to the union, and then donate more. Sit around and wait a few years for Boeing to call you back and to really give it to them tell them you’ll come back IF and only IF they take away some of your seniority.
You are naive if you ever thought the union would 'stick by you'. Union officials' livelihood is bread that is buttered by management. Sure, they'll stick by you in good times, doesn't cost them anything. But when times are tough (like now) the Union hierarchy will side completely with management. The Union wants to stay in good graces with management no matter what happens. The union is really only allowed to exist, or at least function, if management allows it to exist and function. Don't be confused by vague socialist rhetoric.