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H1B processing halt - How does it affect Cummins?

Heard that Trump wants to stop processing of worker visas. Will this create more opportunities for unemployed people in the US? How will this affect Cummins? Will they outsource more jobs? Or will they hire American?

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The H1B restriction was put in place after visas were awarded in 2020 so is pretty much worthless albeit Trump had good intentions. Employees who already have visas can still enter the US for work. If Trump gets reelected and extends the visa restriction then it will have a positive effect on making sure US citizens get hired but Cummins will probably respond by moving exempt jobs to China and India especially since the vast majority of exempt employees have been working remotely for 5 months now and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future. Why pay someone to work remotely in the US when you can pay someone else less to work remotely in China or India? The real Cummins Goal Tree only has one branch which is China and India first, America last.

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Buckets

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Post ID: @Ltoz+15BbAcTg

Cummins will just stop doing the work here. They will move it offshore. No way they are paying US wages.

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it’s difficult to put in people’s head that h1b’s in cummins do not get paid lower than US citizens. Inversely, they are usually paid much higher because of their Master’s degrees (at least 5 to 10k) higher. The only h1b’s that might be underpaid are the contractors, who are not cummins employees. Can those be replaced by US citizens? Sure. so this h1b visa ban affect cummins? no. It will not, as 100% of cummins immigrant hires which are in US are not impacted by the executive order

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Post ID: @fofu+15BbAcTg

It's not about diversity get that out of your head, they may say it but it's not. They do it to save money because american workers are more expensive and two they know that there are expensive. The funny thing is that these foreign workers who become citizens and/or usually become the same americans that get laid off or let go because they are competing with H1B's from their own country.

It's a sick circle. and it's not about not finding people that know the job.

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No, Cummins will not hire more US citizens because of this ruling. CMI will spend millions on lawyers to find a way to continue to bring in foreign workers. They are striving toward some sort of "diversity utopia" in Columbus Indiana. Having native, white US citizens fill the open jobs isn't part of the plan.

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While this sounds like great news for Americans, it's all smoke and mirrors that will have little effect on the millions of Americans laid off right now. This executive order only affects the issuance of new H1B visas until the end of the year. The year is already half over, and most of those visas have already been issued. This affects a handful of foreign workers at most. Most importantly, the 500,000+ visa holders already in the US get to stay here and keep the jobs they already took away from US workers.

And there's no reasonable expectation that big companies will even follow the new rules. They use immigration law firms such as Berry Appelman Leiden LLP in Houston to ignore the visa rules and keep H1Bs on the payroll despite job applications from more-qualified US citizens.

The H1B program is not, and has never been, about filling jobs for which there are not enough qualified Americans. That is a lie. It's all about corporate power and control.

What's one way that big tech companies commit visa fraud? The law says that when a H1B visa comes due for renewal, a job posting for the position must be made publicly, and if a qualified American citizen applies for it, they must be hired instead of the H1B visa holder, and the visa is not renewed. Companies get around this by posting the job ads in places that are technically "public," but nowhere a real job candidate would ever find them, such as in the classifieds section of obscure industry journals like the International Journal of Human-Computer Interaction. Or, as Amazon does, in the classifieds of the printed version of the Seattle Times Sunday edition. The printed classifieds are full of job ads from Amazon and other tech companies. The catch is that to apply for them, you have to mail in a printed application to a P.O. box. Does anyone seriously believe there's a person opening envelopes and reviewing printed resumes that landed in a P.O. box like it's still 1972? Of course not. This is simply a way to make it impossible for a qualified American citizen to apply for one of these jobs already held by an H1B visa holder, because the company has no intention of giving up that visa. Or, they will instruct a manager to print out a job posting and discreetly post it on a company bulletin board in a break room, right next to the government notices about minimum wage that nobody reads.

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