Oh cool! Another thread turning into completely missing the point of the topic.
In all fairness, a decent amount of the rework performed on the planes coming out of Carolina were do to poor training of the employees. We sent people down there to help train them. Some of it was engineering related...the program was a mess for a long time.
But when the planes arrived from Carolina, they were more often than not, built with damaged parts or installed wrong, again do to poor training and just a lack of care. There were parts damaged on purpose with foot prints on them.
Some of the biggest customers refused to take planes built by them for quite awhile.
The planes getting reworked that were built in the Puget Sound were early production models that had to be updated to newer specs. Same goes for the current rework being performed.
Not saying Carolina is horrible. Just a different entity. Puget Sound has its problems as well.
The point of the union would have been to ensure proper training, giving the employees the right to say they need it without being fired as often happens there with the high turnover. They’d have more of a voice. Could’ve helped with what came out last year with employees afraid to speak out down there when problems came out in the media with management pressuring employees to not report problems and instead hide them.
Unions have their benefits but can also be a pain in the but. The union for us is more of a pain in the butt and frankly could use a good flushing at times but I’d still rather have them then not.