Thread regarding Occidental Petroleum Corp. layoffs

LAPC need a volunteer

LAPC: Would anyone be willing to submit this and report back on your result? Goal being for the 4.9% deduct to be rescinded.

Good Reason: A material reduction in your Base Salary as compared to your Base Salary immediately prior to the Change of Control.

The Plan Administrator’s position that 5% as a firm value is the line between material and immaterial is not supported by historic legal or accounting rulings or positions. Per the SEC Staff Accounting Bulletin 99 which contemplates materiality, the Financial Accounting Standards Board rejects a formulaic approach to defining materiality and advises that all circumstances must be considered.
While the SEC and the FASB positions are regarding corporations, not individuals, the concept translates.
Per the SEC, “exclusive reliance ..… on any percentage or numerical threshold has no basis in the accounting literature or the law.”

  1. 9% is extremely material to a household budget. In my case, here are some examples of what the net effect equates to:
  1. home and auto insurance combined
  2. 20% of childcare costs
  3. > 100% of our household gasoline cost

SEC: “A matter is "material" if there is a substantial likelihood that a reasonable person would consider it important.”
Without question, a reasonable person would consider important having to make a choice between gasoline, insurance, or childcare. Moreover, 4.9% may be the difference between a household running at a net profit (accruing savings) vs. a net loss (accruing debt) which is extremely material to that household.

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Haha the comment below this is so funny while also being so accurate.

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Post ID: @1rwr+14f0OiXx

Everyone is calling them legal professionals. The one thing I’ve learned since August is OXY won’t try to screw you but they’ll trip over their own d—- 9 different ways trying to implement anything complicated.

I believe they think ~4.9% is just as solid as WTI when outbidding a super major.

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Post ID: @1ukk+14f0OiXx

LAPC got cut 30% as well

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Post ID: @1aln+14f0OiXx

@1ngz+14f0OiXx they don't have the burden of proof until someone files suit.

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Post ID: @1lkk+14f0OiXx

If they had an argument behind the 5% why wouldn’t they have produced it by now?

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Post ID: @1ngz+14f0OiXx

@1gvy+14f0OiXx / OP: Why do you just assume they didn't consider it in exactly this respect? how do you know they made the 5% arbitrarily or based on a Google search? These are legal professionals not random number generators.

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Post ID: @1aor+14f0OiXx

Wrong! LAPC VP’S in GOM were not sacked!
VP’s surveyed the landscape at OXY with knowledge of what’s on the horizon and with a package In hand decided OXY’S ability to operate in GOM currently requires different leadership.

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Post ID: @1jhv+14f0OiXx

Yes the plan administrators made that statement, so they believed at the time that their arbitrary 5% would hold up in court. But if they realize this argument that they hadn’t considered before would be the basis of a class action, they may come to the realization that it’s a good argument. Then maybe they will reconsider their position in order to avoid the class action.

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Post ID: @1gvy+14f0OiXx

It will be denied. The plan administrator(s), all L-OXY, stated it doesn’t qualify; therefore, it will be denied.

If one wants to fight it, he/she/it? must resign and pursue legal recourse.

Oxy could save $1.2B/yr paying WEB’s preferred dividends in shares and suspending the dividend. Seems they’d rather take a few pounds of flesh from the employees. Are other operators cutting pay? I haven’t heard of any.

Word on the street is they sacked the last remaining L-APC VPs in the GOM.

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Post ID: @1wmd+14f0OiXx

OP, you make good points. Can you be the volunteer. I’m personally waiting for the right time. 4.9% isn’t my worry, it’s them dropping VSP all together. I would rather take that in a few months than CoC today.

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Post ID: @1tek+14f0OiXx

You won’t be spending that much on gasoline anymore, don’t worry.

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Post ID: @gif+14f0OiXx

@wwh+14f0OiXx And LOXY crying can be discarded against a waiter who now is on unemployment. And them against someone who is homeless etc etc.

Oxy entered into an agreement with LAPC employees that they are reneging on. yes, it isn't as bad as others, but that isn't a justification to ignore this.

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Post ID: @nui+14f0OiXx

This is a joke, right?

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Post ID: @oeg+14f0OiXx

Sort of getting tired of LAPC crying over a 4.9% reduction. You are positioned way better than LOXY. Please, stop your crying.

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Post ID: @wwh+14f0OiXx

You are kidding right? If it applies to you just do it yourself. By the way the President and his staff thinks there could be 100,000 to 200,00 deaths in the next two weeks to a month. I think we all better get ready for a month of keeping away from others and locking the USA down. Your 4.9% should be secondary to being alive and having a job with benefits. We are such a spoiled self serving society it makes one sick. At least you can pay your mortgage with a 4.9% reduction. Try a 30% reduction! Pray we all make it through this virus, and if you come out on the other side with a job and 4.9% cut in pay feel blessed.

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