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Boeing Employee Complaints - 30 Day Summary - Nov 15 to Dec 15 2019 (source below)

The source is below... There is about 35 feedback points here, all taken from the link below. I've filtered out everything prior to Nov 15, the last entry was on Dec 15.

Employee Complaints - 30 Day Summary - Nov 15 to Dec 15 2019 (source below)

  • Company going down due to the 737
  • Where to start, Boeing has lost itself, the company is shrouded by nothing but negativity. Worker moral is terrible, senior management attempts to step on technicians/lower level salary, and an extremely high turnover rate. Quality is an afterthought, it's managed as production first regardless. The mentality is to, " find a way," but not find a legitimate way. The things you read about the company you see in the media are coming to light, and that's just one place, the overall culture of the company is underhanded.
  • Still trying to move towards more agile processes which causes conflicts
  • Politics is apparent as you move into the company. Easy for subpar people to hide in the bureaucracy.
  • Bad leadership (we went through 5 senior leaders in less than 3 years), ineffective ratio of employees to managers (40-60 to 1). Pension is no longer offered, only 401K offered now
  • Really big, which makes change complicated and sometimes slow.
  • Boeing is a large company and it's easy to get lost in the grind. Difficult to stand-out and voice new or innovative ideas; though they do seek them out, it's just difficult to pursue and is similar to the five stages in developing a team: forming, storming, norming, performing, and adjourning. Never get to the norming part, especially across business units.
  • Easier to promote someone than it is to fire them, which leads to exponential problems with said employee(s)
  • Worked at three different Boeing sites in two different states, in manufacturing, overtime is a constant necessity
  • Some Sr. Managers are allowed to succeed on the backs of their employees and first line managers and are not challenged. There are instances where this happens over time and the Sr. Manager has significant turnover (chewing through their direct reports). Executives need to actively engage to ensure this does not happen.
  • Slow to change; limited diversity; slow salary and leadership growth opportunities
  • No shares offered, lot of managerial hierarchy.
  • Bureaucracy, manufacturing focused, lackluster middle management, few formal development programs,
  • Not enough advancement in current role. In order to get promoted must apply for a job in another organization.
  • Like most companies, Boeing has its share of problems. Change is always constant, from management to work rules. Depending on the program, be prepared to work overtime, but you will have most holidays off. The hiring philosophy for management positions is often perplexing at most.
  • Long Time to Promotions
  • Bad outlook on Max stoppages
  • Top down management style. It is my way or the highway environment.
  • Toxic people and environment
  • Networking is more important than performance in most HR organizations
  • Cumbersome, process focused environment results in slow decision making
  • Gotta show up early to make sure you clock in before your shift
  • Lots of mandatory overtime. Cuts back on time spent with family, but you have extra money to burn.
  • Hiring process is slow and there is not much room for negotiation in terms of salary. Compensation is low relative to other aerospace/engineering companies.
  • There is a lot of bureaucracy that sometimes impedes the work. Processes are long and arduous. Nothing happens quickly.
  • Work/life balance, strict environment
  • There is a lot of bureaucracy. I gave up trying to understand the complicated multi-dimensional management structure.
  • Management has no idea what they're doing. Management turnover is too rapid for any meaningful change to happen.
  • Slow to move up from a Level 1 Engineer
  • Moving internally is weak. Employees are undervalued when transitioning between roles internally.
  • Lack of support from management. They only look out for themselves. Trying to advance themselves, with taking the time to work with the people they have under them. Not listening to associates requests.
  • Quite a bit of bureaucracy and politics. Too much focus on profits has hurt us lately.
  • As an intern, it didn't always feel like I was being pushed outside of my comfort zone despite interesting projects. Maybe it's the size of the company but I felt sometimes being too "comfy" at points.
  • Strict PTO but it’s great.

Source: https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Boeing-Reviews-E102_P5.htm

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Where to Start: Item (2) Is So On The Mark. Daa

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Post ID: @1cyg+12x6jVB9

Where to Start: Item Is So On The Mark;
Production First Regardless.
{find a way," but not find a legitimate way}
is more like, I Don't want to know Just Get It Done: - Boeing, Riding Dirty.

  1. g. When Management turns into Thugs.

Not All, But it only takes a few riding in the car and you all go to jail.

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Post ID: @1uwy+12x6jVB9

Mr 123x here - I created this list. Leave me thumbs up (or arrow up) if you like this list and I will create a new one every month. Cheers!

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Post ID: @1xkc+12x6jVB9

It’s the truth

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Post ID: @lck+12x6jVB9

I can confirm #9 as it happened to me too - I am fairly easy going and this was and still is my biggest complaint

  1. Worked at three different Boeing sites in two different states, in manufacturing, overtime is a constant necessity
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Post ID: @gez+12x6jVB9

Here is a numbered version, it's easier to refer to items if numbered...

  1. Company going down due to the 737
  2. Where to start, Boeing has lost itself, the company is shrouded by nothing but negativity. Worker moral is terrible, senior management attempts to step on technicians/lower level salary, and an extremely high turnover rate. Quality is an afterthought, it's managed as production first regardless. The mentality is to, " find a way," but not find a legitimate way. The things you read about the company you see in the media are coming to light, and that's just one place, the overall culture of the company is underhanded.
  3. Still trying to move towards more agile processes which causes conflicts
  4. Politics is apparent as you move into the company. Easy for subpar people to hide in the bureaucracy.
  5. Bad leadership (we went through 5 senior leaders in less than 3 years), ineffective ratio of employees to managers (40-60 to 1). Pension is no longer offered, only 401K offered now
  6. Really big, which makes change complicated and sometimes slow.
  7. Boeing is a large company and it's easy to get lost in the grind. Difficult to stand-out and voice new or innovative ideas; though they do seek them out, it's just difficult to pursue and is similar to the five stages in developing a team: forming, storming, norming, performing, and adjourning. Never get to the norming part, especially across business units.
  8. Easier to promote someone than it is to fire them, which leads to exponential problems with said employee(s)
  9. Worked at three different Boeing sites in two different states, in manufacturing, overtime is a constant necessity
  10. Some Sr. Managers are allowed to succeed on the backs of their employees and first line managers and are not challenged. There are instances where this happens over time and the Sr. Manager has significant turnover (chewing through their direct reports). Executives need to actively engage to ensure this does not happen.
  11. Slow to change; limited diversity; slow salary and leadership growth opportunities
  12. No shares offered, lot of managerial hierarchy.
  13. Bureaucracy, manufacturing focused, lackluster middle management, few formal development programs,
  14. Not enough advancement in current role. In order to get promoted must apply for a job in another organization.
  15. Like most companies, Boeing has its share of problems. Change is always constant, from management to work rules. Depending on the program, be prepared to work overtime, but you will have most holidays off. The hiring philosophy for management positions is often perplexing at most.
  16. Long Time to Promotions
  17. Bad outlook on Max stoppages
  18. Top down management style. It is my way or the highway environment.
  19. Toxic people and environment
  20. Networking is more important than performance in most HR organizations
  21. Cumbersome, process focused environment results in slow decision making
  22. Gotta show up early to make sure you clock in before your shift
  23. Lots of mandatory overtime. Cuts back on time spent with family, but you have extra money to burn.
  24. Hiring process is slow and there is not much room for negotiation in terms of salary. Compensation is low relative to other aerospace/engineering companies.
  25. There is a lot of bureaucracy that sometimes impedes the work. Processes are long and arduous. Nothing happens quickly.
  26. Work/life balance, strict environment
  27. There is a lot of bureaucracy. I gave up trying to understand the complicated multi-dimensional management structure.
  28. Management has no idea what they're doing. Management turnover is too rapid for any meaningful change to happen.
  29. Slow to move up from a Level 1 Engineer
  30. Moving internally is weak. Employees are undervalued when transitioning between roles internally.
  31. Lack of support from management. They only look out for themselves. Trying to advance themselves, with taking the time to work with the people they have under them. Not listening to associates requests.
  32. Quite a bit of bureaucracy and politics. Too much focus on profits has hurt us lately.
  33. As an intern, it didn't always feel like I was being pushed outside of my comfort zone despite interesting projects. Maybe it's the size of the company but I felt sometimes being too "comfy" at points.
  34. Strict PTO but it’s great.
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