Why does CEO tolerate an overpaid and incompetent HR leadership who is disrespectful and demeaning towards their staff? 3 from failing dairy company Dean Foods (CHRO, SVP and Sr Dir) - 2 from failing retailer Michaels (VP and Sr Dir) - 2 from failing retailer Fossil (VP and Sr Dir) wtf?
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So what’s the story with the VP of Compensation and Benefits getting fired? Considering the things the VP Recruiting has said and gotten away with that are flat out discriminatory and mean, it must have been an excuse to get rid of YF. Come on karma.
Finally! There are consequences when you torch everyone in your path. She appears to have a history of leaving a mess wherever she goes. Hang in there! Things have a chance to get better now that she’s gone~
Good news! HR VP from Michaels was fired in January 2022. She made several derogatory comments regarding lower level employees while supposedly being the "leader" of compensation and benefit offerings. wtf
You can call a t–d a gold bar and it's still a t–d.
its not HR anymore, its the People Team
i honestly dont care what industry they come from. If they put people first, is all i care about
Good thoughts and questions on HR leadership team having no background in tech
Here's my working theories:
- The good HR people with tech background/knowledge have lucrative tech recruiting firms
- The good HR people in tech can speak the language and understand HRIS systems etc
- The good HR people in tech know how to attract, reward, and retain top tech talent, not something Sabre has been known for, no stability, no equity bonuses on hire, no growth unless you are in the buddy system, these people avoid Sabre's reputation like the plague.
Amen, brother!
I read frustration here, not whining. We say that we are a technology company.
*When CEO hired a new CFO, he found someone from a technology company that had proven experience to make the changes wanted made in finance and accounting.
*When CEO hired EVP Labs & Research, he found someone from Google with travel experience.
*When CEO hired EVP GDCs, he found someone who had technology experience that had built and successfully run multiple global development centers.
*When CEO hired VP Culture, he found someone from Southwest Airlines, renowned for maintaining one of the best corporate cultures in America.
Do you see a pattern here? CEO was successful in finding people with TECHNOLOGY or travel industry experience to fill roles on the executive team, not restricting the search only to people in DFW. It’s a fair question to ask why the executive HR role was not filled with a person with technology industry experience, especially considering the hundreds of technology companies in DFW, or even the US.
Let's take it another step. When the CHRO had a clean slate to rebuild HR and bring in new leadership team, chose individuals without technology or industry experience. And another step. Each of those new leaders have had the chance to rebuild in their areas. Again, building out teams without technology or industry experience.
Do you realize that none of the VPs, Sr. Directors or Directors in HR have technology experience, in addition to the SVP and CHRO? None, unless I'm missing one. Not saying that all of those roles should have been filled by people with technology experience, but out of the hundreds of technology companies in DFW not a single one?
It’s just an interesting pattern that a technology company continues to hire individuals from retail, manufacturing and food distribution. Employers not known for culture, innovation, or being agile. Companies that have been on a continual decline for a number of years, closing stores, filing bankruptcy, even becoming defunct. Industries where high turnover is the norm and accepted as a part of doing business. Were the individuals now at Sbe at fault for those failures? No. But there's nothing wrong with asking why whole teams have been built with experience that doesn't line up with the CEO rhetoric.
If you were going to build a leadership team without people who have technology or industry experience, what’s the next best thing you would want? Wouldn’t it make sense to bring in individuals who have come from companies that are known for successful transformations, or at least have a reputation as a good employer? Wouldn’t you want to find people who have built the type of environment you are trying to create? That have diversity of thought and experiences? It's not whining to want to have people who have been there and done that to lead the way.
Let's face, it, the HR goons will be replaced with AI within 5 years. What goes around comes around.
I might take each of the "failed" companies and point out their reason(s) for failure. HR wasn't the k–ler. Take Fossil... Their heavy push for leathers and wimpy wearables sales spelled trouble. HR didn't petrify their sales.
Many executives have left failed companies and done outstanding jobs at other companies. Too many to list here. Thousands.
The whining is unproductive.
Is there a common thread with the companies that all these HR people came from that were failing? Were they shipping jobs offshore perhaps or extreme cost cutting, but they were "yes men (and women" and aided with the horrible staffing policies?
Original poster, let’s fill in some of the other failing companies in addition to those you listed that HR has come from: Borden (Sr Dir), Radio Shack & Zales (Sr Dir) and JCPenney (Sr Dir & Prin). And you missed a couple more people from Fossil (Dir & Prin).
VP Recr talked openly throughout company about not having to honor the non-solicitation signed when departing Fossil because our compliance team reviewed it and gave her permission to hire people who were still at Fossil since signed agreement had no financial penalties if violated. VP also threw the new Recr Dir from Fossil under the bus by telling people not to look at CSJ’s LI profile because it was “thin” since she had managed only a couple of people for less than a year. Not even in HR but heard both directly from VP in mtg informing of her prized additions and later told again by others in HR that she kept talking about openly.
Any HR people from Blockbuster that need a job? Step right up, you’re sure to be hired!
They just move around and hire their friends. That way they can sit back, do nothing and get a fat salary from Sabre.
i don't know.
but then again there are a lot of i don't knows. They do what they are told. I'm sure that is all he cares about.
The halls of Sabre have been a bit depressing. We've had so much talent leave or get laid-off. So many good people. Sure we had a lot of bad leave too.. but i miss the good ones. The good collaboration, the innovative discussions. The awesome charity giving. not because we had too, but because we were passionate about the tech opportunities. All this has been done in the name of a cheaper rate.
Now the halls are filled with fear. people not sharing. not discussing. just protecting what little they have on their plate (which wont work either..) sooner or later the nazi hunter will rap on your door again wanting to save another 2 million...
I love the company, but I hate to see the way it's been winding down over the years.
Im a smart person, ive been offered a lot of other roles at other companies doubling (one even tripling my comp). but i really wanted this to work. i really want to create in this space.
depressing.