Thread regarding ADP layoffs

The meaning of OT at ADP = Own Time

The last post is on target. ADP got lots of free OT from me when I was salaried. That was changed maybe a dozen years ago due to the lawsuit mentioned. I continued to work OT for which I was paid, but I often punched out and kept working so that I could finish work and not have the stress of justifying OT.
I believe there are also certain distinctions between exempt and non-exempt regarding perks, rewards, bonuses, and even respect, but sometimes you just have to play the hand you are dealt. Just keep your resume updated and don't take anything for granted.

Solution Center Consultants had the same change happen more than 10 years ago. They were working all kinds of crazy hours and getting nothing additional for the effort, so a CA-based consultant sued ADP and won. After they were made non-exempt, management blew a gasket when they tried to work the same hours as before and the labor cost skyrocketed. Management told them they had to do all of the same work but within 40 hours per week. (By the way, CA employees are paid OT based on more than 8 hours per day.) The bottom line is that the client-facing employees are abused by not receiving proper training, not receiving appropriate pay, not receiving adequate respect and not being given the proper support from management. So, either enjoy the OT hours you might receive or enjoy being able to log out and have a life. They won't let you have both.

After reading all this about FLSA changes, OT and not working past 40hrs, my gosh all I can say is what the f? What is with these insane companies?!?

Rumor has it that all VP's and below will be made hourly employees! Clock in / clock out.

ADP has become such a horrible environment that they are like a revolving door of hires/terms - often within a month or less!

Yes this is technically compliant. All FLSA says is situations in which someone can be exempt, not that they have to be. Nothing illegal about paying everyone hourly with ot as long as you're paid for any time over 40 in a week.

What about the Fair Labor Standards Act? Are we compliant regarding this kind of switch of employee status all of a sudden or have employee jobs been re-categorized? Does anyone know?

Time management, perhaps?

Some years ago, well before the strategic locations, all of ADP's administrative assistants (and possibly other roles) went from salaried to hourly, punch in and out. Their schedules did not change. They were not allowed a shortened Friday. They just ended up working OT without pay, because that's who they are–honorable and dependable. And last year, those in my organization were let go.

This is certainly intended to cut costs in some fashion. I'm sure there will be a part 2 of this, like hourly EEs are no longer eligible for...

To be considered part time, you have to be under 32 hours. The company will bring you under 40 hours to cut what you accrue with vacation and sick hours. Personal hours might be cut from 40 to 32 depending on your new hours. The company will then make you work the 40 hours until they need to make number, then will make sure you work no more than your new hours, and will ride you to get the same amount of work done when working the 40 hours.

If you are hourly and ADP forces you to work less than 40 hours, then you become a part-timer. Then ADP doesn't have to provide any health benefits for you. Another nice cost savings for the company.

Now that your are hourly, watch and see if ADP will cut hours back. I remdmber when they cut hours back from 40 to 38, 36 or 32. This then put a dent into vacation, personal and sick time.

Sorry that you are going through this. I do hope that Santa gets you that gift to get you out of ADP.

Watch your time card on holidays too - it isn’t set to deduct a meal beak on holidays so my ‘manager’ called me out for having OT. It was clear he was never checking time cards or he would have seen the amount of hours on 12/25 and 1/1 were incorrect and thus the reason I had OT. Good thing us overpaid tenured people can troubleshoot these things and keep ‘leadership’ looking good.
Every day is a comedy of errors at ADP.
Please Santa Claus... get me out of here for 2020!!!!!

Not a bad deal. Assuming that your hourly rate does equal what your salary would be. Works out in your benefit, no more 50/60 hour weeks, now just 40 for the same wage.

ADP Is indeed a scumbag organization however, this doesn’t seem like a bad deal. Because I never had to pay overtime to salaried employees they could and did take it vantage of them for years. Expect employees to work 50 or 60 hour weeks for the same pay as if they worked 40.

I just say enjoy the extra free time that you have. ADP doesn’t care about you, why would you care about them?

Same happened to us. Are you in a OneADP location? But watch out, because even though they don't like OT, they also don't like people leaving before 5 on Friday. Absurd.

When I was at ADP salaried workers were expected to work a lot of overtime hours, but hourly workers were not allowed to work overtime. Perhaps because ADP didn't want to pay for overtime for the hourly workers, but didn't have to pay it for salaried workers?

I don't know what is up ADP's sleeve this time, but it seems that you are going to have some of that elusive work/life balance by getting to spend more time with family, friends, and recreational activities by only working 40 hours a week. Enjoy!