I have to say this: ADP's management at almost all levels is just downright limp and ineffective. The only solution they have is to fire good employees to cover up their own tiny performance. ADP has turned into a one-ups-man-ship of trying to not be limp!
It is now time for layoffs of board members, and C-Suite level employees, and Vice-President and above levels.
Perhaps it is time for a mass walkout be employees in a union like manner!
You ever look at Carlos Rodriquez's head - it look like the polished bowling ball! Just sayin'
I do agree that there won't be another VERP, however, the associates who weren't old enough to take the last one, but do have a pension, are thinking long and hard about retirement. I do expect more folks will leave voluntarily, as the stress, long hours, constant battle for more help will finally burn them/us out. I know I'm ready to walk away with just my pension and 401k, not worth it anymore.
I highly doubt that there will be any offering at all again similar to the offering from their VERP. I also don’t think they’ll take 3-5 years to remove higher compensated associates. The are going to keep reducing continuously, probably a swoop post year end but also prior. They’re going aggressive.
@11cOcelt-5sza - I think you are right, but a bit early. ADP can afford to wait 3 - 5 years before they purge the next group that is over 55. They would not get many if they go any sooner.
Sad to see it happen. Just as the 2018 VERPs and RIFs deserved better treatment, so do those that were under 55 and have worked at ADP 15 or more years.
As we all know, it doesn't matter what they call it. When you are gone you are gone whether you retire, the position was eliminated or relocated, or if you were advised that you no longer met the new standards. Loyalty used to be two ways with the old ADP. That no longer seems to be the case.
Don't blame the managers, they are fighting hard, most of them are protecting their associates. They are arguing for more new hires, realistic deadlines. Promises were made to "the street" and it wasn't made by the middle managers. You will see another wave of knowledge leave, it's those folks that were too young to take VERP, but have 15+ years of experience. Look at the C-suite at Roseland, they are so far removed from what the associates are going thru, they created the mess not the middle managers.
Take note: The survival of ADP is not guaranteed. You can't just assume that it won't collapse because you don't want it to. No one can predict what will happen. The fact that Carlos Rodriguez and other top executives keep selling off large amounts of stock is certainly not a good sign. Stay tuned.
Yes, there is a problem with ADP's management. Employees go in and out of this company like through a revolving door and management is powerless to stop that. Employees are expected to "get with the program" but the company only offers low wages and little incentive for workers to try to succeed.
Management has to work to earn respect, loyalty, and credibility among its employees, and is not entitled to them automatically as it seems to expect. Since management does not want to work at this and make ADP a great place to work, then it gets unmotivated and disaffected workers who don't stay long.
I agree with your assessment of ADP executive management. It has not been a secret that moving up in ADP is about who you know rather than what you know. Many upper level executives have no clue that the company is run by the individuals who are trying desperately to give clients the best possible service with broken products and ineffectual tools. In essence, they can't see the mass exodus of clients who don't want 65 year old tools and the BS excuses given to them for the lack of experience in the new hires (which is not their fault, by the way).
The mass walkout occurred when 6% of the total employee population was offered a voluntary retirement package that only 30-35% were expected to accept. Instead, more than 70% accepted the terms and left the company and taking great knowledge with them. Since then, employees have been pushed out via layoffs, RIFs or firings almost every single month.
ADP will not collapse but they will never gain back the industry respect they once had as long as Carlos is running the show.