Thread regarding Sears layoffs

@blpv Thanks for that. I'll make a new thread with the new list and map, of remaining Kmarts. Thanks again, this is awesome!

Hope we can finally get this zeroed out. It's taking too long. End it already!

Make it 59.

Wow, LOL, this will be almost zeroed out Next Week. Your silly list will be meaningless as there won't be any Kmarts left.

I'm surprised with all those odd, straggling stores, in far flung places around the country, that they decided to close Temple City, which is in LA County, the largest single county in the country! There appears no rhyme or reason to where they close stores. North Dakota has 700,000 people and their store remains, yet LA County, which has over 10 million people, loses their store. Go figure LOL!

Woops, my bad, I forgot to fix the bottom stat, so let me try that again:

Alabama
X
Alaska
X
Arizona
X
Arkansas
X
California

1. Big Bear Lake -O
2. Costa Mesa
3. Freedom -P
4. Grass Valley -P
5. Long Beach
6. Mckinleyville -O
7. Ramona -O
8. REDWOOD CITY
9. South Lake Taco
   

Colorado

1. Loveland -P

Connecticut
X
Delaware
X

Florida

1. Key Largo
2. Key West
3. Marathon
4. Miami
   

Georgia
X
Hawaii
X
Idaho
X
Illinois

1. Des Plains -P

Indiana
X
Iowa
X
Kansas
X
Kentucky
X
Louisiana
X
Maine
X
Maryland

1. EDGEWATER -O
2. Silver Spring -P

Massachusetts

1. Holyoke
2. Hyannis
   

Michigan

1. Marshall -P
   

Minnesota

1. Minneapolis

Mississippi
X
Missouri
X
Montana

1. Hamilton

Nebraska
X
Nevada

1. Vegas -P

New Hampshire

1. West Lebanon

New Jersey

1. Avenel
2. Belleville
3. Kearny
4. West Long Branch -P
5. WESTWOOD

New Mexico

1. Farmington
2. Hobbs

New York

1. Bridgehampton
2. Bronx
3. Bronx -P
4. NY -P
5. NY -P
6. White Plains

North Carolina

1. K–l Devil Hills
2. Raleigh -P

North Dakota

1. Minot

Ohio
X
Oklahoma
X
Oregon
X

Pennsylvania

1. Columbia -P -O
2. Kingston -P
3. Walnutport -P -O
4. Willow Street -P
5. Wind Gap

Rhode Island
X
South Carolina
X
South Dakota
X
Tennessee
X
Texas

1. Mcallen

Utah
X
Vermont
X
Virginia
X
Washington

1. Burlington

West Virginia
X
Wisconsin
X

Wyoming
X

Territories:
Guam

1. Tamuning, GU

Puerto Rico

1. Bayamon
2. Caguas
3. Guaynabo
4. Hato Rey
5. Mayaguez
6. Ponce
7. Rio Piedra
   

USVI

1. St. Croix
2. St. Croix
3. St. Thomas
4. St. Thomas

• Statistics: Kmart absent in 31 states. 10 states, CO, IL, MI, MN, MT, NH, ND, NV, TX, WA, have only 1 each. MA, MD, NC, NM have 2 each. 47 Kmarts in US States total. Of those in the US, 16, marked with letter "P", have pharmacies.
  The 6 mainland locations with letter "O" are owned by Sears, as opposed to the others which are leased. I did not bother researching the ownership status of the locations outside the mainland.
  Speaking of which, Puerto Rico has 7 Kmarts, USVI has 4, Guam has 1, so 12 total stores outside of the US. 59 total Kmarts left as of now that are not closed or closing.
  States with more than 2 Kmarts:
  CA: 9
  FL: 4
  NJ: 5
  NY: 6
  PA: 5

60 Kmarts left on the wall
60 Kmarts left!
If Temple City,
Should happen to fall
59 Kmarts left on the wall.

(You Know what song it's from).

Got another one reduced! Temple City CA Kmart is history! 59 left, boys and girls! BOOM! Almost there.

Maybe I should have written "mall", instead of "wall". Oh well, judgement CALL, mall, or wall. I'll stop now.

@smqb Good points, all. Few more observations: OH has about 12 million people, GA/NC each have 10 million, none of those 3 states have a store. Yet, ya, as you mentioned, tiny ND, MT, NH still have 1 each. North Dakota is the 4th smallest state in the country, and the smallest that still has a Kmart (in Minot though they may close soon).
Just weird, the ones they decided to keep open, for now.

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_population

Just saw this list. I am trying to make sense out of it. CA is the biggest, state, of course so that makes sense. But Texas is second biggest with about 30 million people, yet it has 1 store. New Mexico,with only 2 million people has twice as many stores as TX, LOL. North Dakota with about 700,000 people is the smallest state with a Kmart, and they have the exact same amount (one), as Texas, the second biggest state in the country. Montana, also has the same amount of stores as Texas. NJ has 9 million people, about one third the population of Texas, yet has 5 Times as many Kmarts.
There seems no rhyme or reason to the distribution of the remaining stores. The remaining Kmart in TX is Mcallen, which is waaaay southeast of the state, not even close to the next closest location, which would be in New Mexico. Just oddly placed, these remaining stores.

@riqu Nah, this whole charade ends in 2020, clean cut, complete end.

The latests genius obfuscation tactic is to stop store closing lists and do one-offs only, so you're just going to have to get blue balled.

Ya, let's get some closings announced, soon. Tired of reading about Eddie's leadership, HE happenings, outsourcing to India, vendors, etc.. Let's read about some damn Kmarts closing! That's what we're here for. We are in the 9th inning, Kmart down 20-0, 2 outs, 2 strikes. FINISH THE FREAKING GAME AND END THIS STUPID COMPANY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Those onesies, twosies states are going. CA, FL, NY may take a bit longer to get rid of, but we'll blast them out soon enough. We should get this list chopped down in a jiffy, thankfully. :)

@qgdd I think sooner, dude. Either This Month Or Next (the announcements).

@nxag I'm willing to bet even before then possibly. I'm predicting that after a bad Christmas season, more store closings will be announced in February or March and those ones will probably close in April or May, and any stores still hanging on after that will close by the end of Summer 2020 (July or August probably)

For fun, let's organize them (48 US stores) by Time Zone:
PST: 10 in CA, 1 in WA, 1 in NV: Total of 12
MST: 1 in CO, 1 in MT, 2 in NM: Total of 4
CST: 1 in ND, 1 in MN, 1 in IL, 1 in TX: Total of 4
EST: 6 in NY, 5 in NJ, 5 in PA, 4 in FL, 2 in MA, 2 in NC, 2 in MD, 1 in NH, 1 in MI: Total of 28

Why did I do this? Well I was just bored LOL. But shows a heavy East Coast bias. And slightly on West Coast too. The entire middle of the country is hollow, in terms of Kmarts. And they are a midwest-based company (along with Sears, based in Illinois).

This number will drop very quickly. Probably none left Christmas 2020.

From Wikipedia, "At its peak in 1994, Kmart operated 2,486 stores globally, including 2,323 discount stores and Super Kmart Center locations in the United States."

So we're down to 60 out of 2486. About 2.4% of stores left, LMAO. In other words, 2426 out of 2486 (about 97.6%) of Kmarts have closed. If this were a baseball game, Kmart is down 30-0 in the bottom of the 9th, with 2 outs, nobody on, and 2 strikes. If this were a football game, they're down 40-0 with 30 Seconds left, no Timeouts, and the other team has the ball on their 10 yard line.

Just put that in perspective. Almost 98% of their peak stores closed. Why they don't put this turkey out of its misery is beyond me. Even the most loyal baseball fans, if their team was down that big in the 9th inning, would be like swing at the first pitch and get the game over with. Don't worry about bunting for a base hit or working the count. The game is over. Go home.

@iszo It's quite possible that they keep Des Plains open, but also just as likely that they don't. Yes, IL is their home state, but they closed all the other Kmarts in the state. Geographically, the closest other Kmart to it is the one remaining Kmart in Michigan (Marshall). So it gets into the economy of scale scenario, again. But ya, if the store is Profitable (I don't Know if it is or not), then it may stick around for A Quick Minute. But they're all likely closing Next Year anyway.

I could be wrong, but I doubt Des Plaines closes anytime soon, just due to proximity to HE, at least until they’re officially throwing in the towel. Too many teams visit that location to see how merchandising/signing/etc. strategies are working.

It’s the same reason West Dundee avoided so many lists until the most recent one. (Yes, I realize Schaumburg is almost as close, but so much of the personnel lives in Elgin/west of the campus.)

@hosa I'm not sure all of the northeast will remain. The NYC stores, ya, for a while, but NJ, PA, eyc., will likely close. As for NC, I think they're done because no nearby states have any stores. And Guam will probably stay as its the most Profitable store.

I am guessing Minot ND, will close soon (no announcement yet though), because as someone else posted, their lease is due to end.

Like others have already mentioned, I imagine the Kmart stores in states that only have one or two locations (McAllen, Loveland, Des Plaines, Hamilton, etc) will probably be the next ones to go. The ones in the Northeast, California (+ Vegas maybe) and South Florida (maybe the two in North Carolina as well) will probably stay open still, but I imagine their time will be up soon too.

Excellent point, by someone below, about the stores not being "Geographically coherent". I like that term. If the stores were in some type of region, it might make sense. But if they are randomly located, like someone through darts at a map while blindfolded (as it looks now), then it simply makes no sense to have random stores so far apart from each other. This simply can't, and won't last.

Expect all the states with onesies or twosies to close quickly.

I posted this in another thread, but WTF, I'll just post it here too: Sears will still have over 100 stores, so I guess that's SOMETHING. But Kmart, with only 48 on the mainland US, in 19 states (BTW, thanks to that dude who keeps putting up that Kmart list....their website is extremely out of Date), is an absolute joke. More like a parody of a joke. 10 or so states with 1 store each, another 4 states with 2 stores each. WTH is that? 1 random store in Burlington Washington, then 600 mile east, there's a tiny random store in Montana, then nothing within about 800 miles east of it, then, going east from Montana, you find 1 in that huge shopping town (LOL) of Minot North Dakota, then about 600 miles east, there is 1 store in Minneapolis, then another about 500 miles east of that, they have 1 in Illinois. Then go a few more states east, you'll find 1 random store left in Marshall, Michigan, then you need to go another 600 or so miles east to find a few decrepit, derelict, Pennsylvania stores left, then east another 150 miles, to a few random NJ stores, then the NYC stores east of that. Did someone throw darts at a map and decide where to keep the open Kmarts? Are they trolling us at this point? What is this? I mean, if they were going to keep a few stores open, at least have them Geographically coherent in some way.
Then on the other extreme, there are 2 stores, Kearney & Belleville NJ, which are like 2 miles apart. Which for me, is a brisk walk. They HAVE to be taking business away from each other. How does this make sense? Some Kmarts are almost 1000 miles from the nearest other Kmart while others are walkable to each other. SMDH.

Any ideas which will be the next Kmarts to go? It appears there have already been a few additional Sears, post-announcement, already, pretty sure a few Kmarts will follow soon, as well.

@dbpw All Caps, I just felt like typing that way, because Water, Wood, are sacred in my Religion so I Capitalized. No bearing on anything store related. Great question, though, thanks! :)

In your list, you have a few store names in ALLCAPS. What significance does that have, if any?

Someone on another thread was nice enough to share list of which stores were owned as opposed to leased. As for mainland Kmarts, there are only 6 remaining that are owned, and not closed or closing. They are reflected with a letter "O" below. Just bear in mind that this may have no factor in closings, as when I went through the list of owned stores, many have closes, so just because a location is owned, it is by no means safe from closing. Here is the list of Seritage owned properties: https://www.seritage.com/properties

And here is my list again: I UPDATED my list to show which stores are owned, based on the good information that my friend 3fqm provided. 6 stores are owned by Seritage, and they are listed below, with a letter "O". This was only done for Kmart stores on the mainland:

Alabama
X
Alaska
X
Arizona
X
Arkansas
X
California

1. Big Bear Lake -O
2. Costa Mesa
3. Freedom -P
4. Grass Valley -P
5. Long Beach
6. Mckinleyville -O
7. Ramona -O
8. REDWOOD CITY
9. South Lake Taco
10. Temple City

Colorado

1. Loveland -P

Connecticut
X
Delaware
X

Florida

1. Key Largo
2. Key West
3. Marathon
4. Miami
   

Georgia
X
Hawaii
X
Idaho
X
Illinois

1. Des Plains -P

Indiana
X
Iowa
X
Kansas
X
Kentucky
X
Louisiana
X
Maine
X
Maryland

1. EDGEWATER -O
2. Silver Spring -P

Massachusetts

1. Holyoke
2. Hyannis
   

Michigan

1. Marshall -P
   

Minnesota

1. Minneapolis

Mississippi
X
Missouri
X
Montana

1. Hamilton

Nebraska
X
Nevada

1. Vegas -P

New Hampshire

1. West Lebanon

New Jersey

1. Avenel
2. Belleville
3. Kearny
4. West Long Branch -P
5. WESTWOOD

New Mexico

1. Farmington
2. Hobbs

New York

1. Bridgehampton
2. Bronx
3. Bronx -P
4. NY -P
5. NY -P
6. White Plains

North Carolina

1. K–l Devil Hills
2. Raleigh -P

North Dakota

1. Minot

Ohio
X
Oklahoma
X
Oregon
X

Pennsylvania

1. Columbia -P -O
2. Kingston -P
3. Walnutport -P -O
4. Willow Street -P
5. Wind Gap

Rhode Island
X
South Carolina
X
South Dakota
X
Tennessee
X
Texas

1. Mcallen

Utah
X
Vermont
X
Virginia
X
Washington

1. Burlington

West Virginia
X
Wisconsin
X

Wyoming
X

Territories:
Guam

1. Tamuning, GU

Puerto Rico

1. Bayamon
2. Caguas
3. Guaynabo
4. Hato Rey
5. Mayaguez
6. Ponce
7. Rio Piedra
   

USVI

1. St. Croix
2. St. Croix
3. St. Thomas
4. St. Thomas

• Statistics: Kmart absent in 31 states. 10 states, CO, IL, MI, MN, MT, NH, ND, NV, TX, WA, have only 1 each. MA, MD, NC, NM have 2 each. 48 Kmarts in US States total. Of those in the US, 16, marked with letter "P", have pharmacies.
  The 6 mainland locations with letter "O" are owned by Sears, as opposed to the others which are leased. I did not bother researching the ownership status of the locations outside the mainland.
  Speaking of which, Puerto Rico has 7 Kmarts, USVI has 4, Guam has 1, so 12 total stores outside of the US. 60 total Kmarts left as of now that are not closed or closing.
  States with more than 2 Kmarts:
  CA: 10
  FL: 4
  NJ: 5
  NY: 6
  PA: 5

At the very least, the states with 1 or 2 locations will close. They cannot ship to these far-flung, isolated locales. The areas with multiples, like CA or FL may linger just a bit longer, but not much.

Will be very close to zero after Christmas.

Eddie needs some place to stage liquidation of the trash heaps of junk in the pipeline from Z-list suppliers and leftovers from other closing stores. A third of stores closings were announced during the peak shopping holiday season. What do you think happens when the fire sale no longer has any stock?

Any more announcements coming?

If they announced all these closings now, imagine what will happen come January when the stores are really empty LOL. This list will shrink further, very quickly.

@1sgz Is there a site where we can find out which are owned or not? Is there a list somewhere?

@10kv Nope, sadly, I haven't seen Walnutport as closing yet. It was not on the latest link. Do you have any link to them closing?

Of those remaining (estimated) 60 stores, which are owned, which are leased?

Mass.
Holyoke: Owned?
Hyannis: Leased

I thought Walnutport PA was part of the last closing list?

@1dkk This list is the ones not yet announced as closing. If you have any links to any additional closures, please post them, and upon verification, I will remove those stores from this list of 60 stores. I have no doubt that this list will read ZERO very soon, but for now, I have 60 that are not closed or closing.