Thread regarding Symantec Corp. layoffs

Taking the offer, but looking for future potential

Sorry folks for long winded post. They're all opinions and views from what I've experienced. Grab some coffee. Read, pray, laugh.

Back from 08/2019 - thoughts by Herjavec.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s85FrcskFmw

I found this video shocking and completely making sense, considering how upper executives have handled this company since Salem's rule. I witnessed how we've been struggling to chase "new shiny things" and failed because we never INVESTED time for R&D, only fixing stuff broken or barely maintaining what we have. And trust me, we are WAY behind in technology and "culture".

I've been with symc for a long time. Man, I've enjoyed the ride for many years. I got my offer letter. It's a confusing and long. Reminds me of a lawyer shouting, "Here, just sign this now! Sign it! Sign it now!" Even if I did, there's something deep down that gives me a c-appy feeling. I'm not sure how to go into details about it, but I'm sure all you all know how it feels. Feels even c-appier when folks have to post on this forum behind the backs of their leaders.

When I tune into "All hands" with Art, I just have bad feelings. Art used "umm" a lot in his speeches and when people typically do that, it means their thoughts aren't fully vested, or there's a smelly fish present. Art maybe a nice guy, I don't know him, but the All Hands sure stimulated rumours and fears. The "Ask the Executive" was hardly productive and the FAQ wasn't either. I'm sure those folks /will/ be getting better offers that us engineers. Same smelly fish. Speaking of All Hands and Ask the Executive; why couldn't they do this before -and as frequent? The executives once said "Wow! We like the way Broadcom does business! Very direct and to the point getting stuff done!" Again, why couldn't THEY (not we) do this?

Oh well... I'm not bitter, just spidey sense. And, a let down from what all transpired over the year.

In my opinion, I don't think it's a good future for me. I've been searching since the threat of layoffs– and witnessed I could potentially make more than I've been offered. The offers could've been better if Symc gave raises every year (instead of 3 or 4). But you had hope, like I did, as the executives touted about hard work and reward would come about. It never came – and now Symc is bought out. Those raises (or promotions) we were supposed to get every year (hell, I'd be happy with 1%) could've manipulated the ending offer.

Richard Hill said he would be the CEO different than anyone else. He is correct. He's the CEO who sold us out while putting on a face of a new chapter. He did a good job though. Here's a video for that: Jim Cramer symc acquisition (Rick Hill magic): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLUOhp6lFhk

I have to take the offer (did ANYONE notice it's with CA, a company of BroadCom?). I will also be looking for a potential future. I've sat thinking and relying on a stupid severance I /might/ get during the layoffs and post-year of Broadcom. I realise now, it doesn't matter anymore (hell, it'll be taxed heavily anyway). Sure, I'll miss out on severance when I do decide to go with another offer. But, the folks who left prior to all this mess, also left a good payout. I see how much their lives have improved, more money they've made, and less politics to deal with. They warned me many times; but I had faith in the company executives I believed in –only to realise it was Stockhom syndrome. I envy their progress as I've been left 5 years behind.

The higher executives got a really good deal. A new yacht with stocks as they dance in the desert, blowing up the sunshine...

  • And, we still have our families.
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I left two months ago. Best thing I did. Working in one of Symantec’s direct competitors that pays a little less but has a great culture and a CEO and management to be proud of. Not the Mcafee band, not Rick Hill, not Greg (who I personally liked but never thought he was doing much), but someone smart and inspiring.

Guys, Symantec won’t get any better. It would stay the same, which is under the water, or get worse. Remember. Symantec Isn’t the absolute leader on anything nowadays and has been living on a brand reputation. Broadcom will k–l the only thing there is left ....

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Post ID: @3fiy+11ELAC9a

CyberNAFTA, here we come! No one cares about people. Wake up! Deliver value or be outsourced!

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Post ID: @2dnq+11ELAC9a

You will never focus on anything here other than fixing broken things and maintaining them. Offshoring continues. The business model here is simple...establish sticky fingers-squeeze the customer’s ba11$ - cut costs. Simple. People are a liability on the books. The end.

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Post ID: @1jkf+11ELAC9a

Fantastic post. I was able to get out 3 months ago (without severance) and life is much better on the other side. Go find yourself a company that truly cares about the mission of cyber security: protecting people and the worlds data.

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Post ID: @1plk+11ELAC9a

All the best

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