Place your bets! I say they announce a shutdown of the production line by August 15th, to last approx 90 days.
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Before Thanksgiving is my bet regarding date of Layoffs announcement.
Anyone got move memos to Everett from Renton
IAM have kept others from learning as job security and no one knows what they really do so they can pull the wool over peoples eyes. The quality is sh– in WA too and you know it. Charleston just gets outed because they are non union. If the mafia IAM got outed they’d move these planes out of state in no time. Dirty entitled b–tards.
IAM and integrity come on buddy. It’s just organized mafia at the worst. You know what I’m talking about keep the new kids in the darkness for job security now there’s integrity for ya. And gobble up all the OT you can why make sure the works pushed out to a double time day and stick it to Boeing after all they owe ya.
From the all hands meetings that happen today and tomorrow it looks like they are gong to try to fire people over little things. PPE, automatic write up if you don't have it all on. So don't keep safety shoes in your locker, and probably keep some earplugs in your vehicle. Watch them start really enforcing the speed limit on boeing property, again easy write ups make firing easier. For all the people who don't stop at stop signs and speed you might want to watch it.
I can see them trying to get rid of old timers however they can. A bunch of half trained people that aren't maxed out will be cheaper initially than keep all the 20+ year people. Heck my area has mostly 30+ year people and then then sub 5 year guys that are replacing the death and retirement attrition. They lay off al the newer guys and within a year they'll be short handed.
Lay off the old timers first!
Most of the people at Boeing that couldn't handle working on the floor went into management or some F- off job. Managment hates the Union because we push back at those Lies and greed. I surprise management doesn't put the blam on IAM, but some posters are as you can see.
I am a new hire. The 5k was cool and all. I mean especially when I wasn’t even around when the deal was struck. But I can promise you, when it comes to the 5K or keeping my job? Obviously, 5k ain’t sh– over having a union paid, job with all the bells and whistle’s . Retirement, Insurance.
I’ve got a year in almost, so I’m pretty sure I am going to be the first out the door. The economy doesn’t have nice good union jobs. The economy has Amazon jobs. Clearly you can see why were panicked. Duck your 5K , I would much rather keep my job .
I’m pretty sure we will start playing up in August 1 round anyway. Pretty union contract I guess it would be in the best interest for Boeing not to have that many union paid employees on the books.
You can clearly see a huge gap between retiree employees, and new hires. That gap will have to be fixed,
I think of that after all of the new hires are laid off, and the old timers get their 5K, they start dropping off like flies hitting the retirement button . That’s how I’ll end up getting my job back. And honestly as a new employee, I try to soak up as much information as I can from the old timers. It’s pretty much free college guys. The old timers Know what they’re talking about. They can be grouchy sometimes, and dear God if I have to hear this story one more time about how the pension got taken away in 2012, I may shoot my foot. Like seriously. We get it Susan, Boeing ain’t what it used to be.
It breaks my heart what happened in those crashes. Boeing probably should take a step back and figure out what the duck it’s doing anyway .
I think they will shut production down in the middle of August.
Id rather hire my dog then a IAM assembler.
The FIRST round of notices will be handed out on 8/21/19.
I say layoff notices in 2 weeks..
@ Mr. or Mrs. Chapter 11, having given it some thought I believe thusly. Without the integrity the IAM brings with it the Boeing company would have less of a leg to stand on otherwise.
Boeing has no future without the IAM, We already suffer greatly from inexperienced mechanics eg: Charleston. How could you conclude that we'd be better off without the union ? Maybe you believe your outspoken belief to be true, I don't know. Uphold the belief we'd all be better off if we could figure it out together. Sans that would you put your family on a plane built by anyone than the most qualified technician or you happy with the guy from Burger king building an aircraft
Please anyone stupid enough to hire the union IAM would go out of business. The way they milk the Boeing Company now. Purposely work slowly to get OT and push work off to the weekend. If I was in charge I'd file the chapter 11 just to get out of the union contracts and renegotiate them out of many of the milking opportunities they currently abuse.
There's many companies that would like to take away employees from Boeing; SpaceX and Blue origin to name a few
Or maybe you need to quit depending on a union for your livelihood. Machinists have SKILLS, amazing skills. If you are laid off, go work for someone else and stop sitting on your a– waiting for Mother Boeing to call you back.
You want to hurt Boeing, contract negotiations are not your leverage. Go somewhere else, they can't replace you. They can't AFFORD to replace you.
After enough people leave and don't come back, they will have to recognize the skills you have.
As long as Boeing knows it can lay you off and get 90% of its workforce back with callbacks, they WILL keep doing it.
Hey Boeing you really screwed up.
I can’t speak for others but I am only booking flights on airbus when I have to fly for now.
I am sure the International union will sell us out again! in regards to last contract. Warn notices how will they apply? we will see. Maybe employees should start there own class action suit against the people who made this mess.
Whenever they plan the shutdown, I'm sure it'll result in a ton of people being laid off at least through through the Christmas holiday shutdown so they won't have to pay for the Holiday pay & the $5,000 due to the IAM members on active payroll on January 3rd.