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Remote work - how is it audited

I'm currently a remote worker, and my manager is happy with it. He wants to assign me an office, and have me never go in. Is this viable?

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Based on CA, this seems to be a very BU head specific thing. In the Mainframe division everyone except for sales/pre-sales has to come in to the office. If you live outside of 50 miles of an office you likely didn't have a job(though some exceptions were made). The ESD BU seems to be much more relaxed about it. Most R&D still needs to come in to the office at least some of the time, support and other groups seemed to have been give a free pass to keep working from home. As to how they track it? Badge scans.

BTW, even in R&D you can still WFH when needed, they're not that strict. They just don't want it to be a regular thing.

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Post ID: @1eew+10Tm3bIq

I hope people understand difference between "Remote Working" and "Working from Home". No is for Remote working and not for WFH. I know BRCM employees who WFH every week and have no issue.

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@10Tm3bIq-1gdb
The bigger question: is your manager going to survive?

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Post ID: @1qce+10Tm3bIq

As long as your a– is covered by your manager, you are safe.

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Post ID: @1gdb+10Tm3bIq

@urt Hmm honest 8 what about the honest in-office workers that deliberately gossip or play facebook games or whatever you have witnessed cause you know you have. Don't give me that c-ap about honest 8 when there are people today that work in-office and actively skirt the system.

@yxn i do not agree. Many IT companies offer work from home possibilities. Further SYMCs downfall isn't people boozing on the job or lack of trust its 100% been the management and more specifically the board of dictators who are greedy and reckless. How many CEOs again in the last 5 years?

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Post ID: @ypy+10Tm3bIq

Its a 0 tolerance policy, Hock could care less the opinions of his minons.

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Post ID: @lbp+10Tm3bIq

@10Tm3bIq-yxn Dude, that article is over 3 years old. Same source in the last 3 months:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/abdullahimuhammed/2019/05/21/heres-why-remote-workers-are-more-productive-than-in-house-teams/

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Post ID: @tfg+10Tm3bIq

@10Tm3bIq-fhs There are just as many "studies" and "reports" for WFH as there is against it. Forbes here has a decent article about it, but note the "Problem" section: https://www.forbes.com/sites/larryalton/2017/03/07/are-remote-workers-more-productive-than-in-office-workers/#1772f7d31f67

(Key in on those big bold points ... the Limited Evidence, the Bias, the Productivity concerns etc.,)

Can you blame big business for not pushing full steam on a flexible WFH policy? I don't blame HOCK for being against it, I myself am against it. I know plenty of SYMC employees in person who confessed to sipping the booze while working remotely, or using an AUTO-IT script to move the mouse cursor every so often on their VDI to mimic "I am here". The level of trust is just not there on a bigger scale with remote staff. Any opinion to the contrary is just ignorance, or willful blindness. Those can be compliments fyi ...

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Post ID: @yxn+10Tm3bIq

Can someone please share this with Hock and @10Tm3bIq-urt

https://www.inc.com/scott-mautz/a-2-year-stanford-study-shows-astonishing-productivity-boost-of-working-from-home.html

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Post ID: @fhs+10Tm3bIq

@10Tm3bIq-urt your statement is speculative and absurd. Stating most fail the honest 8 does not mean others do. Most remote workers actually work longer hours. They roll out of bed and get to it. They don't take take time to get ready and commute nor do they waste time at the water cooler (IMHO as you would say)

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Post ID: @wsa+10Tm3bIq

@10Tm3bIq-ble, Statistically WFH provides no more benefit than InOffice overall, however depending on industry or your environment that is subject. If you think WFH produces superior work and employees, then why is SYMC a failling company with the bulk of the true "talent" remote?

IMHO, WFH's are always suspect to failing the daily "Honest 8". Unless you are managing your time like a contractor down to the 15min intervals, you can't prove to me the distractions of home life arent greater than the rigid structure of the corporate office.

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Post ID: @urt+10Tm3bIq

Based on the latest info this week, my read is that remote engineers on enterprise products may get permanent offers. However, you will work on other products if your product isn't one of the chosen ones.

Keep in mind, there will be ongoing pressure on managers to eliminate remote works. I suspect that by the one year anniversary after close there will be far fewer remote workers. As a remote employee, I assume that one year after close is the longest you would be able to stay with Broadcom except for special circumstances (just my opinion)

FYI- FAQ site states that if you are terminated without cause in the first year after close you get Symantec's severance package. That means no 40 week cap on severance and if I read this correctly, Symantec pays Cobra for the severance period.

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Post ID: @ggb+10Tm3bIq

If you are truly interested in how WFH was handled during the CA acquisition see this thread:

@XkMgSFj
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https://www.thelayoff.com/t/XkMgSFj


No WFH policy but enforcement is managed by BU leadership -Exceptions?

Is there anyone that was given Stay letter and who officially had a WFH status when with CA and now no longer able to WFH?

Broadcom says exceptions for WFH is based on the BU. Is there anyone who has received an exception that are not more than 50 miles? I'm faced with wishing i was NOT on the STAY list. Its clear BC is counting on folks like me who live far are enough for the commute to be significantly life impacting (DR appointments, family commitments, etc) so they just quit. I'm observing a lot of fear driven management styles being employed. Get in line or get out.
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Post ID: @XkMgSFj

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Post ID: @khp+10Tm3bIq

What if Broadcom doesn't have a physical office/location in the state (OR) I reside and I'm a remote employee? I can't legally be assigned to a CA or WA office and still be remote in OR. Or can I?

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Post ID: @mlc+10Tm3bIq

From the All Hands today we learnt that remote workers in engineering must be assigned to an office. How often you go there seems to be up to you. Remote workers in sales and sales engineering still seem to be the norm.

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Post ID: @rjy+10Tm3bIq

I think he hates Remote workers who do not have access to an office. He thinks employee need to be at office and interact with others. And this may be a HW thing and not a SW. But WFH, one day in a week is ok.

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Post ID: @vah+10Tm3bIq

Hock is a dinosaur and will regret his WFH position as other companies hire the best. People that go into offices are statistically more stressed and poorer performers. He doesn't care though he is making hundres of millions of dollars as richest CEO while workers have to endure stress and drama of cubefarm life. Might as well install roof planks so we can just walk off the top of buildings like Chinese and they just keep hiring more sweat labor to run the plants.

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Post ID: @ble+10Tm3bIq

Almost all the workers at CA who were WFH were RFI'd Day 1. If you were lucky enough to get transition you were assigned to an offfice. Hock has 0 tolerance with WFH employees.

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