Thread regarding Dream Center Education Holdings, LLC (DCEH) layoffs

What to tell the students? Will the school be opened in January? No one knows.

We had a faculty meeting at our campus, here is what we were told:

  • No idea if any schools will be opened past December (this was a direct quote from our President).

  • We are not allowed to discuss the current situation with our students, if we do, it will be grounds for termination. But if we do talk to students, tell them that we are an accredited college, even though we are not compliant with accreditation requirements.

  • That we are required to attend Open Houses and encourage students to enroll, even though no one knows if there will be a college in January to attend.

  • Firing full-time faculty was a good thing because now the Chairs can bring in 'New Blood'. Our Chair even spoke (joyfully) about hiring adjuncts who just have a high school diploma, because she can't find college-educated instructors for many of our courses.

  • Students are showing up for classes and no instructor attends (three different classes on our campus had three different instructors 'no show' for classes this week).

  • When asked if our President, Provost or any Charis have directly questioned DCEH about the blatant disregard for the accreditation requirements, hiring unqualified instructors or the immediate future of the college: No one said a word, not a word, they ALL looked away.

A word of caution to those in the administration (who were not fired), you might find yourselves named as co-conspirators in multiple lawsuits for fraud with the way you are going about doing your 'job'. If you think DCEH won't throw you under the bus at the end of the day you are wrong. You too are complacent in this fraud on the students, pretending you are any better than DCEH is ridiculous.

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I am still at Ai Austin, just got a job offer and will be leaving next quarter. Those of you who are shaming us, knock it off, we still need money, we have families, we can't just leave. They told us 4 days before the next quarter started that we were getting demoted to part time. The minute they did that though, my resume started to go out everywhere. I worked my freaking butt off for the students. Even with all the bull c-ap that DCEH is doing, even though Brent is one greedy piece of c-ap, I made sure my classes were as good and as relevant as I could make them. I tried to make Ai better, I tried to turn it around, but I don't think DCEH wants that. Pretty sure our campus will be going out of business here pretty soon. But I just gotta say, don't be jerks to those of us that stayed, it's not because we wanted to support the bull c-ap of Brent Richardson, it's because we wanted to make Ai better and be there for our students.

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Post ID: @eusu+Vtdpame

It would be surprising if any Ai, including AiO, is still open January 2019, at least as a degree offering school. Ai was moving to semesters but that was put on hold to make up some nano credential classes. DCEH is already offering nano credentials, full time faculty are being fired from open schools, and admissions is still recruiting students for degrees, will these students be funneled into nano certifications?

Ai was never of interest to DCF, from an article March 6, 2017, “the least aligned institution to the Dream Center’s mission would be the Art Institutes...the foundation would consider offering more technology training degrees through the Art Institutes to fill growing job market needs.

“(Existing Ai programs) ...are very expensive to teach and … they’re jobs that don’t pay well out of college.”

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2017/03/06/large-profit-chain-edmc-be-bought-dream-center-missionary-group

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Post ID: @4twr+Vtdpame

2iti-

BORING!

Spice it up....What I’m hearing is that you want to win a gift card to Starbucks.

Try again with more heart

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Post ID: @2qmx+Vtdpame

For students in culinary and interior design (fields with external professional accreditation), students need to know the truth about accreditation and its necessity for “gainful” employment.

If you look at the list of American Culinary Federation accredited schools, you will see many Ai schools listed.

Go down the list of CIDA accredited interior design programs, most all of the Ai schools are CIDA accredited.

Including closing schools, Colorado, Houston just received it, looks like all California Ai’s have It, Pittsburgh and Philadelphia. Schools that just did massive layoffs Miami, Atlanta, are listed.

How long will these schools keep accreditation?

Do these professional accreditations care about regional accreditation, having full time faculty for the programs, campus morale, predatory recruiting and enrollment of students with a low gpa, careers after graduation, internship opportunities, school management, etc? Are these accreditors real or just on paper and taking cash from anyone who will pay them?

As long as an Ai culinary and interior design program has ACF or CIDA, they still have some value in helping graduates land jobs. Regain the school, these accreditations still mean something. As soon as these accreditations are pulled, the Ai degrees are completely worthless.

Any faculty, full time or adjunct, who continues teaching at a school loosing professional accreditation (or regional like Western, Middle States, SACS, etc. as well) destroys any future higher ed career in their field (except of course at another predatory school). Continuing to work for a school that provides no future potential for a graduate will do nothing for your CV.

Students will have no potential for jobs as the degree will not be recognized (few if any employers accept non accredited degrees, no government agency recognizes these), no potential to attend a graduate program (no university recognizes a non accredited degree), and students have nothing to show for attending Ai other than debt repayment and a future in menial jobs.

Students need to hear the truth.

Culinary: https://www.acfchefs.org/ACF/Education/Accreditation/ACF/Education/Accreditation/

Interior design: https://accredit-id.org/

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Post ID: @2iti+Vtdpame

@Vtdpame-irc

With that statement you've earned the jerk of the week award. We've all been there though if I read you correctly. HaHaHa.

@Vtdpame-zzl

Lame excuse. This has been coming on for a long time. I believe that proactivity and time management would have been in order long before now.

I'm sorry to hear about any illness (there's COBRA) but having the baby under these precarious circumstances has to be relagated to thoughts and prayersville at best.

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Post ID: @jhx+Vtdpame

Was this South, Ai, or Argosy?

I have been telling students the truth: I don’t know what DCEH is doing, I don’t know their plans, they tell us nothing. If that makes them too uncomfortable to continue classes and they go elsewhere so be it.

To the commenter regarding faculty that returned as adjuncts: I have not heard a single faculty member return to “help out.” They returned because they have formed bonds with their students and don’t want to ditch them, because they need an income and it will be months before regular colleges start hiring, because they are dealing with life threatening medical issues and need an income, new babies, etc. I’m certain everyone that returned did so with much thought and conflicted emotions.

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Post ID: @zzl+Vtdpame

This is what is going to happen to your students (if they are lucky enough to find a college to accept "no more than 60 AI credits"). Then explain to them the lifetime of debt that they will carry without a college degree because no one would tell them the truth. Be honest.

https://www.theindychannel.com/news/local-news/indianapolis/indiana-tech-other-indiana-colleges-try-to-help-students-left-in-limbo-by-art-institute

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Post ID: @hrt+Vtdpame

Tell the students the truth: If you are not going to graduate in December, you are wasting your time and your money. Tell the truth. Your students deserve the truth.

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Post ID: @zoo+Vtdpame

I will not be a part of the fraud any longer. When asked to come back part-time, I left. Those who are "trying to help out" are just contributing to the fraud. If you are still at one of these schools, you are just as guilty as DCEH.

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Post ID: @gxm+Vtdpame

Same situation at my campus. No one knows anything and the students are getting no answers. Everyone is running around with no idea what the future holds. The whole situation is horrible. I told my chair that I will not be back after this quarter.

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Post ID: @kow+Vtdpame

At this point or at any point in the life of these loan mill schools, if you have to stress and ruminate over what to tell the students or how to look out for the students, get this one echoing question out of your skulls because it reveils the truth about human nature that supercedes all other concerns involving right and wrong, moral, immoral or amoral, ethical or unethical.

I believe the answer to the statement I'm about to reveal has long been know to the Brents of the world and allows them to operate unconstrained by any honorable guidelines.

The overriding statement that few will own up to is this: If it comes down to me and my job or dear old mom, well, goodbye dear mother. it was nice to have know you.

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