Thread regarding Cummins Inc. layoffs

You will be saved if you are Telugu and your boss is also Telugu. They hold each other like ants marching towards sugar. I would rather stay away from them as their behavior is quite predictable( kick anyone’s a– who is not Telugu).

How does this work for the kids that are in the TAP program:

Here is 2020 thread - you can see it here: https://www.thelayoff.com/t/125uLgVM

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Managers often rate someone's work as bad and create paper trails of emails. Then set goals that are impossible to match. Then let Hr know they have some fresh meat. These are the one's let go. This is a Cummins classic I have seen for years and years.

Didn't lay-off already started? As of I know a number of people from different departments was let go in Oct, the number seems high for letting so people go at the same time, and the severance accrual has been going up for months. Didn't expect they finally came out and say they are going to lay off 2000 more. I guess all the travel budget cuts and branch closing is not enough to help reduce cost.
The company is not investing enough in innovation, very conservative management style. Maybe it's time to start looking for new opportunities.

Here we go again, 2000 to go, no doubt Kent plant will be closed as there is no Manufacturing in there so it makes no sense to keep these employees.
Looks like it may be me this year oh well plenty of opportunity outside of Cummins

Layoffs will start Friday November 22 all they way into December and stop before Christmas.

I got caught in the 4th Quarter 2015 layoff after 16 years there. It took about 6 months of searching, but I found another engineering job in the area where I didn't have to relocate with an immediate salary jump of 14k and now making 22k over what I was paid there......they underpay, over hire, then mass fire cyclically about every 3-4 years, so this layoff cycle is right about where it would be expected. They have zero respect for loyalty and have incrementally replaced the domestic workforce with foreign engineers (my last department there was 102 employees, only 15 of which where not Indian or Chinese). They need a significant purge of higher corporate leadership to fix this company.

F—ing 2000 layoff in the exempt workforce, does anyone know how many exempt employees do we have?

2000 exempt to be cut globally

Cummins is a horrible company to work for. I servived 14 months in their child care facility. I witnessed child neglect, force feeding, name calling and yelling. Horrible teachers they hire. Wonder if they even do a background check. To top it off low wages. Cummins you should be ashamed of yourself

Are they announcing how many people impacted and in which BU?

I left in June after 8 yrs in Columbus, got a 30k raise. Be brave, Cummins looks really good on resumes. Cummins has terrible HR management and hires through 10 months per year then fires... went through 2 or 3 major riffs. Over 50% non US citizen employment...this is diversity at Cummins

To answer the earlier post below, I was an exempt employee in CBS (Nashville). It’s my understanding that were several roles eliminated there on Sept. 30.

From a high performance, multi-awarded, highly liked by peers and direct reports, 10+ year management level employee that was let go in the Fall of 2015 while I saw plenty of younger, less tenured, less productive workers, etc., keep their jobs, Cummins is NOT a good company to work for. They cannot manage their business regardless of tariffs, etc. They cut with a hatchet, without any concern for performance. Then they have a hiring frenzy, then they layoff a few years later, etc. Cut your losses and leave while you can if you haven't been let go already. And, I suggest your counter any severance package and ask for a year's worth if you can, especially if you are an older, higher paid employee. Job market isn't what it used to be.

I have seen cuts done in October 2019 that impact Exempt folks located Indiana (Corp and DBU office) and Nashville.

Those of you who were already impacted, where were you based? They've been very quiet about any RIF happening already, though we all anticipate one after the early retirement finishes. I've seen them do something similar with groups going through restructuring. They never really announced those until after everything was over.

I've been through 3 cycles of cuts like we're seeing now. Historically the RIF would have followed the early retirement process. What's also different this time is that there has been no announcement regarding the RIF cuts that are happening to Exempt employees at Corp. The company was poised for significant growth in 2019 hence the hiring frenzy. I blame Cummins' misfortune on the tariffs. Cummins experienced a double whammy. It is hit as an importer of parts and an exporter of finished engines. I've seen both people new to the company and with 7+ years of service cut. Hopefully they will all land on their feet quickly. Good luck on finding your next position.

The "Voluntary" Retirement Program was introduced on Sept. 30 and I was let go on the same day as part of a RIF. I thought the RIF would come, but at least a couple of months later after they determined the cost effectiveness of the VRP. I was wrong. Not sure what the numbers are yet, but it sounds like this is just phase one. I was the newest member of the team after relocating from out of state. They were hiring like crazy in 2018 and it was obvious that they couldn't sustain that surge (about 70-100 new employees in global onboarding every two weeks throughout the entire year). As an outsider looking in, that doesn't sound like a sound and sustainable strategy. They're essentially eating all of the relocation costs for most of those employees to the tune of tens of thousands per employee. I don't get it.

3rd shift appears to be the big target in the next layoff cycle according to rumors at CMI. Will any of these employees be given a opportunity to move to 1st or 2nd shift. Need to know before doing job search. Does anyone know when the layoffs will start hitting the plant floor?

Cummins Generator Technologies - around 150 employees impacted.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-49911188
Cumbernauld plant 130 impacted.

Just started!

The cost of steel and aluminum have increased more than 25% due to the new US/China Tariffs. Many contracts CMI had predate these and were not even talked about when these deals were done. Thus the costs of materials has significantly gone up and CMI is caught in middle. When you couple that with the China retaliation tariffs of imports of an additional 25% on CMI goods coming into China you see a 50% increase costs to the products themselves. This is all the while the tariffs are forcing both the US and Chinese economies into significant productivity issues causing economic slowdowns. CMI has significant cash reserves but the cash burn rate is estimated to be higher than that amount before the economy is expected to rebound from this trade policy. CMI held out on layoffs until the last minute to give US and China representatives time to try to avoid these impacts but they have not been able to reach a deal and deal is nowhere in sight for the next years or so. The company has been reducing its labor force in upper and middle management for months by not back-filling open positions but that has proven to be only partially effective. The layoffs are in the process right now. Keep in mind that CMI is not the only company that will be making these announcements in the coming weeks. This is what a real trade-war looks like!

The Layoffs have started. If you haven't been laid off yet, you should start looking for a job ASAP. Your performance DOES NOT MATTER when the grim reaper comes around.

Fantastic! Spend a ton of money celebrating 100 years and then let your employees go! Nice going Cummins Leadership!

Have the layoffs started? Did they announce how many?

Woo hoo. I'll meet criteria for the Voluntary Early Retirement plan and I'm definitely raising my hand. I was planning on leaving at the end of the year anyway.

just started...

My read of Freeland's message was more pessimistic than others in my department. I do think it's the pre-cursor to a RIF. My thinking is that Wall Street doesn't give any credit for companies' plans to control/reduce costs that don't involve headcount reduction and I'm sure the company will not miss earnings again in Q3. They will do whatever they need to maintain profit levels on reduced sales.

Cost reduction emails are out! Expect a RIF anytime now! Does anybody have any scoop?

folks!

They don't want metrics or measured anything because it locks them in and the know if they don't measure up as an exempt they are gone. So they use perception and feedback and essentially brown nosing to get things buy (for now). As I said before the only reason why they have been getting away (much of the management and hourly employees. Is the fact that no one has truly pushed the envelope to rat sections of the company and/or push back on the unfairness and also the discriminatory way the set up a system that truly doesn't measure what you do but only makes your bosses to make up anything they want about you even when there is no evidence they just say it and it's gold.

You can't talk about someones action from 4 to 6 months ago and think that it's relevant when the employee themselves will say I didn't do that or your wrong on your perception. Another reason they do this and want you to keep everything quiet is that if they out you for so and so isn't getting the work done fast enough or I saw you on break and your eyes closed then that same employee could see someone else doing it (even the boss) and then report tot he HR so and so did the same thing but he wasn't reprimanded or wrote up. This is all designed to protect their friends in the hourly ranks and also the exempt ranks.

Such a top heavy company, OMG. Several directors with no direct reports, who are they directing ?

Leadership releases a high level document called 'Goal tree' every year, they cant even get that out in January, it's pretty much March when they finally release it. There are no measurable metrics to drive the goal tree goals down to teams or individuals, there are no real data driven measurement systems in place to measure your performance - so everything is based on feedback, perception and brown nosing. When a RIF is inevitable no wonder the people who have power protect themselves and let good performers go.

16 just laid off in one location.

I heard 115 from Middle East and Africa. India production has got rid of some.

1000 to go world wide 2019 and it has already started

Yes Q4 this year they will lay off again

Around the time of the new OCU contract among other things. But your correct, they have been overdue for a RIF and that is scary. Because when it comes this time something tells me that many of the ones that thought they where save (been there for 15 years or longer and/or friends of so and so) may be let go.

If you have enough concern to ask, I would be looking for a job already. Cummins is not a known for employee loyalty when it comes to pleasing stockholders. When they cut jobs, they chop across the board regardless of performance or tenure. They also strategically cut based on gender, tenure, salary, grade level, age, etc. as to not appear discriminatory in any of those areas and set themselves up for lawsuits. You aren't safe there, ever. They know they get rid of good people at the expense of executives and stockholders. Unfortunately, the rest of the employees left holding all of the work with less experience are afraid to speak up and challenge the choices of the people let go in fear of losing their own jobs!