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‘We fought’ | Citigroup MDs question controversial approach to end-of-year performance reviews

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‘We fought’ | Citigroup MDs question controversial approach to end-of-year performance reviews

Citigroup MDs question controversial approach to end-of-year performance reviews
Citigroup has begun its end-of-year performance review process, once again using a ‘stack ranking’ approach that has drawn controversy in recent years.

Managers rank team members from best to worst, placing them within one of four levels. Not all employees can be put in the top rung and must be split across the ratings.

This means employees who hit all their targets for the year could still theoretically be placed outside of the top level.

According to a Business Insider report, Citi says the process is meritocratic and ensures their employees meet consistent standards, insisting that it does not follow a ‘forced bell curve’ methodology.

However, some managing directors responsible for rating employees report that they have been told to strictly follow a prescribed curve.

What is Citigroup’s performance review process?
Citigroup is not the only financial institution to use a stack ranking approach for performance reviews. Although some tech companies like Microsoft and Amazon have ditched the bell curve method, banks including Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs some variation of the approach.

Business Insider spoke to current and former managing directors at Citigroup responsible for rankings, who said employees get a combination score of two grades from 1 to 4: 1 is “exemplary”, 2 is “exceeds expectations,” 3 is “valued contributor,” and 4 is “needs improvement.”

Managers give staff a ‘what’ score, based on the employee’s results against key metrics, and a ‘how’ score, based on their approach and abilities, they said. For example, a top performer might get a 1-1, while a poor performer might get a 4-3.

Managers then reportedly take part in a “calibration meeting,” alongside fellow managers, the head of their business unit, and a member of Citigroup’s HR team. Employee scores are reviewed and any 1s or 2s must be justified.

A top business unit manager makes a final decision after the meeting. According to the MDs who spoke to BI, only 5% to 10% of staff can be deemed ‘exemplary’ (1), 15% to 30% ‘exceeds expectations’ (2), 50% to 65% ‘valued contributors’ (3), and 3% to 7% ‘needs improvement’ (4).

An employee who scores a 4 may be put on a performance improvement plan (PIP) or miss out on their bonus, while staff who want a promotion are typically expected to get 1 or 2 ratings for two to three years in a row.

‘We fought’: Citigroup HR team and former MDs disagree on performance review approach

In a statement to BI, a spokesperson for Citi said: “We are a company filled with hardworking, achievement-oriented colleagues and we embrace meritocracy… Our process aims to ensure that colleagues across Citi are held to consistent standards and are assessed by those who have the most direct knowledge of their contributions.”

Moreover, in a recent virtual town hall with employees, Citi’s Head of HR Sara Wechter was quizzed on the distribution system. Employees asked whether the stack ranking approach was fair on smaller, high-performing teams, and Wechter replied there was no forced bell curve.

A senior executive also suggested to BI that claims the bank uses fixed percentages are false. “We have guidelines associated with ratings, which is different from a forced curve,” adding that smaller teams of three to four employees can secure exemptions.

However, the managing directors who spoke to BI disagreed. "They are playing with words," one said. "We were mandated to strictly follow the prescribed curve."

The managing directors also said the stack ranking approach puts employees hoping to become directors or managing directors under a huge strain over multiple years. They also said the outcomes frequently frustrate managers and employees, given how significantly unit heads who have likely never worked directly with the individual can influence the ranking decision.

The process also frequently caused stress and heated disagreements, the managing directors recalled. They said that with a limited number of high ratings to allocate, managers were unwilling to move members of their team down to accommodate high performers in other teams.

"No one was like, 'You can take mine,'" one managing director said. "We fought."

While the senior executive said that the many calibration meetings he has attended were productive and ensured “fairness” by breaking down silos, he acknowledged that the conversations can get heated.

However, he said this was not a fault of the stack ranking approach: "This is a very human thing when you have finite anything, and obviously we have finite compensation," he said. "Of course, people are aware of that, but I don't think it's a flaw in the design. I think that's just part of being human."

Other complaints raised by the managing directors included unclear criteria for non-revenue-generating roles and that the model leads to employees being compared against colleagues with vastly different roles or objectives.

So far in 2024, Citi’s employees have already had to cope with a workforce reduction of 7,000 employees; and over 20,000 further jobs are set to be cut by 2026. One managing director said the layoffs are causing even more anxiety than usual about the performance review cycle.

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Post ID: @101+1wcS516J The OP said he's a SVP, which may Not be Senior level enough at Citi, although it should be.
Remember, SVPs, VPs, AVPs and Associates in Citi are the equivalent of Real Banks' (JPMC, GS, Morgan, Barclays, BofA, etc.) Associates and Analysts. LMFAO !
This is with reference to the type, quality and quantity of work, projects, and assignments they get as well as Salaries and Bonuses (Low or Zero increases for both), promotion prospects (None @ Citi) and how they're treated in Citi compared to the Real Banks.

So For anyone out there Krazy, Insane or Foolish enough to Bizarrely want to get a job in Citi, if you're a VP in GS, JPMC etc. make sure you apply for Director or even MD jobs in Citi.

As many Posters have already posted about, you'll learn Nothing in Citi that you can use and leverage for your next Level Up the Food Chain or sell to the Real Banks for your next jobs. Take a Citi job Only if you're Long Term Unemployed or So desperate.
Hence, Citi is NOT an Employer of Choice, but an Employer of Desperation or Last Resort, just like Fast Food companies, McDonalds or Temp-Contractor jobs. LMFAO ! by Anonymous Post ID: @108+1wcS516J

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Post ID: @2qx+1w3ue8s5

MDs fought :)
Hmm … what else can one expect from the Mafia By Design group. Lol.

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Post ID: @7stc+1w3ue8s5

Wait till you get your package at Citi, along with your paid remaining vacation. Then apply elsewhere and take up a new role. Why leave money in the table at Citi. Don’t quit until you get laid off and get your package. Until then , do unto Citi as Citi does unto you.

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Post ID: @5twt+1w3ue8s5

Gee….I came across this meme that probably needs to go here.
Top performers don’t quit jobs, they quit:
Bad managers
Stagnant career growth
Bad processes
by Anonymous Post ID: @akm+1w7zBEuI

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Post ID: @4jml+1w3ue8s5

Post ID: @OP+1w3ue8s5 The morale @ $hittybank is so Low it broke the morale scale because employee morale is at negative infinity. Employees are doing the bare minimum work and Not going above and beyond the call of duty because we all know about the forced bell curve and forced 3s and 4s Ratings of High Performers that should be getting 1s and 2s.
Salary increases, bonuses and promotions are based on these fake, twisted Fvcked Up Ratings.

The fact that several media sources reported about MDs arguing about and questioning $hittybank's performance rating policies means the world is aware of the same VOE complaints employees have stated every MotherFvcken Year over and over and over again! And yet, $hittybank claims that the VOE is "important to Citi and Citi does listen to the VOE". Bull$hit ! Actions speak louder than words.

HINT HINT: When employees state the SAME COMPLAINTS on the VOE, www.thelayoff.com and during meetings every MotherFvcken Year, this means........wait for it........CHANGE THE MOTHERFVCKEN OUT OF TOUCH OBLIVIOUS $HITTYBank AND HR POLICIES !!!

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Post ID: @1arw+1w3ue8s5 You're right ! But in the meantime while Employees search for a Real Job (Not@ $hittybank. And NO I am Not that guy.) it's H3LL on Earth at $hittybank.

We all know it could take employees 4 weeks to 6 months or even longer to find and accept a suitable job offer.
I'm just hoping for whichever comes first, ideally in this order 1) External Job offer away from $hittybank Dysfunctional Destitute H3LLHole Or 2) Layoff with 90 Days Non-working money and then Severance.

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Post ID: @2nbs+1w3ue8s5

Overall, who really cares. Just interview and leave to get a job somewhere else making more money. Let’s assume that wherever you go is just as bad as Citi. So, you’ll be making more money so at least that’s a plus.

Stay here, be frustrated and make “x”.
Go somewhere else, be frustrated and make “x” times 2.
Hmmmm….what to do….what to do????

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Post ID: @1arw+1w3ue8s5

At Citi, what they call something matters a lot. So while you may be compelled to adjust performance ratings to a shape that, if graphed, might precisely trace that of a classic bell curve, please be informed that Citi does not use that term to describe this.

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Post ID: @1rgf+1w3ue8s5

$hittybank strikes again! These machinations further add fuel to the Fire, lowering already very Low Employee Morale (if there was a Morale Scale or Meter, it's already in the Negative) as well as justifying and rationalizing in the Employees minds to do the bare minimum work because why bother to bend over backwards, go above and beyond the call of duty when the Employees will NOT get rewarded for it anyway???!!!

$hittybank will be lucky to attract and retain Drvg Dealers and Axe Mvrderers as Employees with all of its Dirty Laundry aired out for Job applicants/Svckers and the media to see and read ! LMFAO!

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Post ID: @rcm+1w3ue8s5

It's very possible that the Disgruntled, resentful and Fvcked Over Employees have a role in why Citi is still lagging behind its peers and Not achieving its goals. The remaining lower-salaried Minions-Employees who see that Citi is promoting even more Undeserving MDs than last year thereby "Saving" more money because Citi is destitute, by increasing their Salaries and Bonus percentages which is based on Salary, will retaliate or have already been retaliating by sabotaging work and projects as detailed below:

Competitors and other financial institutions generally do Not demote or "Re-level" employees because the Employer will be Sh00ting itself in the foot for several reasons.

Demoting aka Re-leveling is allowing Trojan Horses to remain inside who can do damage to the company. Demotions sow the seeds for Employees ending up with lower morale because of the lower salaries, lower job titles, lower Bonuses, being forced to relocate etc., which leads to Anger, resentment, doing the bare minimum work, working at a slower pace, Not working at all etc..
While inside the company, Employees can literally surreptitiously damage, sabotage or throw wrenches and problems into projects and work, including other employees' work. What can they lose by doing so ? They're already being managed out, FVCKED Over and encouraged to quit voluntarily.

These are some of the reasons why most Employers just cut-off the Employees instead of demoting them. They just cut off the umbilical cord. by Anonymous Post ID: @czx+1vP11bHF by Anonymous Post ID: @1gvk+1vPNMTot

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Post ID: @qak+1w3ue8s5

Looks like complete chaos, honestly not surprised with confusion at the top levels, no one knows what is going on !!!!

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