I haven't noticed that this company is trying to reduce turnover, nor is it trying to avoid regrettable turnover. Managers should definitely be much more concerned. I would be very careful about agreeing to stay after having quit your job, but I wonder if they even tried to keep anyone after giving notice and in what way?
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If you think your resignation reflects poorly on managers think again. They are looking to cut headcount bu any means. Resignations cost less than other options per the metrics being used so are actually better for helping management hit their KPIs. You are thinking of the old ExxonMobil where they actually wanted to keep people for a career. Need I remind you we are about to PIP any bottom buckets (not just NSI) new hires with 2 or fewer years?
Managers made a poor attempt to convince people to stay at my location. Failed to explain what exactly is TMTS, no mention of KL or transferring work to low cost locations. The belief is jobs will slowly be offshored, so not a bright future for folks and the attrition continues. 5 engineers quit in the last month
It looks bad for a manager and company if people leave, much better for their egos if they fire you. So yes, they are already saying that people shouldn’t quit, things are good and getting better, but we’re still going to NSI and fire 8%. Now is the time to be actively looking, find something better? Take it and don’t look back, no 401(k) match for a while, when it does come back it won’t be like before, “ It is competitive with industry standard” meaning it will be much less and at that time the pension will go away.
In a time like this, the only sane thing to do is to look for work elsewhere. No boss can promise you your job will not be made redundant or unnecessary at some point in the near future. If they entice you to stay with more money, you will also be more likely to be scrutinized at the next layoff round.
An employer is not a spouse, or at least not a faithful one.
@1vmm: I was in a similar position when I left previous employer. boss made many offers. I spoke to headhunter that I was working with: she said not to bite the poison apple. think about if you'd stayed: that fact that you gave notice will be brought up every year @ranking. now, good luck & GTFOH (I mean that in an encouraging way ;).
@1vmm – yeah, sure. Of course they did. I’m sure you were THAT valuable to the company. I guess it’s your “truth”.
Supervisors and managers are concerned. Unfortunately The God Pod isn’t.
There is not much we could offer so if someone decides to leave, we aim to finish amicably but not much of a chance to counter offer if the decision is compensation driven.
In some cases you can move to another, more matching position.
A couple of my managers tried to convince me to stay when I put in my two weeks, and even tried to talk to HR about getting a CL bump or other pay increase. None of them were able to make it happen though, so they weren't really able to offer me anything other than some customization/development of job responsibilities.
I followed appropriate policy and informed the appropriate entity of my intention to separate in 2 weeks. 6 weeks ago.
It was not required that I inform my supervisor or manager of this action.
But of course they did find out.
I'm no Jim Morrison or Howlin' Wolf for that matter.
But I am the backdoor man.
@nai+1asvKVTi It is selfish, greedy, and koolaid drinkers like you who has brought this company down.
Your manager is probably more concerned about having to also do your work load along with his until he finds a replacement. It also reflects poorly on the manager's upward mobility when direct reports resign.
@czw+1asvKVTi
Something sounds fishy here. If I turned in (basically?) my resignation, I'd be gone. What kept you on board? You drank some KoolAid? Comments like these are Sylvester Stallone or Chuck Norris type comments – just acting.
Everyone may be replaceable eventually but it doesn’t eliminate the disruption of losing good people and knowledge they have gained over the years. Knowing who to call to get things done also takes time to replace.
We had a couple guys in pretty key positions out in their 2 weeks. Never got counter offered, never got asked what it would take to get them to stay. Our section head told them they were d––b for heaving because it doesn’t get any better than XOM. They both left lol
Our VP came out and told us that nobody (even him–LOL) is irreplaceable. We are all just numbers and costs to them.
I basically resigned, my manager is trying to keep me on and doesn’t want to see me go. We have an arrangement for me to stay temporarily, but it’s not long until there will definitely be no stopping me. Pay nor benefits are competitive these days.
everyone is replaceable. the more that leave on their own the better.