Thread regarding National Oilwell Varco Inc. layoffs

NOV Controls Group is moving to Norway. No more controls techs in the America.

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Post ID: @OP+14IE06lr

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Norway can stay how about the americans get paid like they do..... work night shift- get paid more. Short change- get paid more. Share a room-get paid more. Fly business class everywhere and even when getting laid off they still get paid more

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Post ID: @4jmh+14IE06lr

Agree there’s no point in keeping a substantial Norwegian presence while offshore is gone. Our locations/Personnel are wildly expensive, have no sense of cost impact and have delusions of grandeur. The are a law unto themselves and basically do what they want....and wrong!

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Post ID: @2wpb+14IE06lr

True. Americans never take shortcuts. #Boeing737MAX #patterson219 #10explosionsOnTexasRefineriesLastYear

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Post ID: @1ktn+14IE06lr

They will all feel the cuts.

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Post ID: @1iwu+14IE06lr

India and China are known to take shortcuts resulting in poor quality equipment. No one will buy NOV products any more if the quality goes down. Bad for NOV overall.

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Post ID: @1vvc+14IE06lr

Cannot be China or India because the quality will suffer.

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Post ID: @1ilj+14IE06lr

In that case move it all to India or China.

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Post ID: @1rtx+14IE06lr

Its not about work ethics. Its all about money at the end of day. Due to the Norwegian gov't policies, it costs a lot more to keep a Norwegian Engineer vs USA. Few Examples:

  • Above certain number of hours a day, NOV has to pay OT to Norwegian Engineer but not to USA Engineer.
  • When travelling outside Norway for work , they have a limitation of how many weeks they can spend in the field before returning back. USA engineer has no limitations and can keep on working like a donkey.
  • Paternity leave in Norway is around 3 months. In USA , NOV has recently introduced 2 weeks.
  • To layoff a Norwegian, company has to give 3 months notice. In USA. they can layoff on the spot.
  • I am not sure if the same policy exist or not but any flight overseas over 8 hours, Norwegians would fly business class whereas USA engineers have to fly economy everywhere in the world.

With the oil prices struggling, it makes no sense from a financial perspective to keep Norwegians.

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Post ID: @1fxo+14IE06lr

Makes sense. Norwegian engineers are much better than American, and they have higher work ethics.

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Post ID: @1jga+14IE06lr

I would say it’d be extremely hard, but not impossible... definitely not something that can be fixed short-term, but it needs to happen in order to really deliver what we’ve been promising to the industry for 15 years; an NOV “ecosystem”. We will not be in a sustained build cycle for many years, why not do the right thing, start bringing everyone together under apt leadership to map the path to our offering 2025+??? Strategy is about the long game, not present constraints.

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Post ID: @lzk+14IE06lr

I hear what you are saying about having only 1 control group but that is not possible because NOV sells many different types of products and each product is designed by a different department. On top of that each product is programmed in a different software platform (Amphion, Rockwell, Siemens, GE, Toshiba, Lab View, TwinCat, Codesys etc etc) . May be 10-15 years ago NOV should have standardized everything. Now its too late and its impossible to have all control groups under one umbrella.

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Post ID: @ydw+14IE06lr

"There are several control groups. Which particular group are you talking about ?" - MGMT101: There should be ONE controls and automation organization for the corporation, ensuring technological alignment and appropriate focus/investment in highest value applications. But NOV has made a habit of standing up separate groups with no communication, costing the company hundreds of millions in development and maintenance costs.

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Post ID: @bhm+14IE06lr

This sounds like something they said 10 years ago that went something like this, Amphion in NA and Cyberbase in Norway unless Norway doesn't like it and then Norway can do whatever it wants.

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Post ID: @ttp+14IE06lr

I heard a rumor that the US will only service amphion, while norway will take care of all cyberbase.

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Post ID: @gwd+14IE06lr

There are several control groups. Which particular group are you talking about ?

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